Is this Nazi Germany?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by pelathais

This is how Indonesia became Islamic in the 18th century. Once the Muslims had control of Java, Buddhists and Christians were increasingly marginalized, isolated and persecuted.

If a Muslim man in Indonesia today marries a non-Muslim woman and she converts to Islam, the family receives a one time lump payment and then a monthly stipend from the government for the rest of their lives. There is a tremendous incentive to form a family based upon this kind of arrangement and Christian girls are a prime commodity.

Does this have anything to do with our Muslim President who was a citizen of Indonesia?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Typical Lite. As Prax already pointed out, Esther never said they didn't have rights. What she decried was the intimidation and violence that typically accompanies Muslim "evangelism."

You'll want examples - The Nation of Islam, though not "mainstream" Islam in any way, they have still followed the patterns of dimmitude and intimidation that Islamic tradition demands.

The civil wars: Nigeria, Sudan, Aceh Province in Indonesia, the Philippines, Thailand, East Timor, India, Chechnya, Bosnia, Macedonia, and so many other places on the fringes of "Dar Islam."

Almost all of the world's present conflicts are on the borders of the expanding "Islamic nation." Just look at a map. By allowing large scale immigration of Muslims to the United States, we will inevitably end up reaping the same violence as we place ourselves on the borders of "Dar Islam."

There are already "no go" zones for the police in Europe - the city of Malmo in Sweden, the suburbs of Paris, parts of London. These areas are governed by local sharia councils and the police have standing orders not to go in there unless the circumstances are "extraordinary." Things like pederasty and honor killings are NOT considered "extradinary." You remember the uncontrolled rioting by "youths" around the outskirts of Paris a couple of years ago? "Youths" is the politically correct euphemism for "Muslims" in French news reporting.

The local noise ordinances in Dearborn, MI, have been waived to placate the Muslim population. How long before we also waive the state laws concerning pederasty and honor killings?

Next they will seek political clout and seek to become a majority (see Lebanon), or they will seek to separate their little region to form thier own Islamic theocracy (see Philipines)

[Praxeas]

Christians in Palestine, though pro Palestinian, have also been marginalized, threated and abused. They are leaving in droves.

[Praxeas]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEmzvAVacLU

[edjen01]

Islam will never...yes never...rule in the U.S.A. I do realize that there are other countries in the world that have been taken over....held hostage...by radical Islamic ideals...that will and can never happen here.

Our land mass is to large, our people are to stubborn, and we are to greedy. It cannot happen here on a large scale.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Sam

Does this have anything to do with our Muslim President who was a citizen of Indonesia?

Dunno. I seriously doubt that he's receiving the stipend, or that his mother did. I haven't read anywhere that she converted. But that's an interesting connection.

Theoretically, if Obama's mother converted - and all that's required to "convert" is to say the "shahada" in front of anyone who qualifies as an imam or sharia judge (The shahada: "The is no God but Allah... and etc.") the family, especially young Barack's stepfather, would have benefited nicely.