But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.
I already asked him that. He either is still workin on an answer, or missed my post.
Even better: If a NT writer is trying to get a point across that something is going to happen in THEIR NEAR FUTURE, please explain what other words they could've used instead of "near" or "at hand" to get the point across to the reader of the letter, that they really meant in THEIR NEAR future?
__________________ If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his sincere friend. Therein is a drop of honey that catches his heart...
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Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. - Eph. 4:29
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
Since the only choices appear to be either an interminable heat death when entropy reaches its maximum or a fiery annihilation when everything falls back into a singularity; I am living as if there is no tomorrow because I can't fathom the eons of time that constitutes "tomorrow."
What if Peter's "all things" was an elliptical phrase like Paul's usage in Philippians 4:13? What if the "all things" Peter had in mind came to an end already long ago? How should we then live?
All things are going to come to a fiery end, Pel. 2 Peter 3:7-12 Since that hasn't happened yet, we should therefore live according to what Peter wrote after the "therefore"...
1 Peter 4:7 But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.
8 And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.
9 Use hospitality one to another without grudging.
10 As every man hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God.
11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
First, I'll just admit that I am NOT an Eschatology student. I have strong feelings about Daniel and Revelation. And my strong feelings are, that all those who try to figure it all out are wasting their time. The book of Revelation is a GREAT book and is a GREAT blessing. Many read the book looking for mysteries and miss "The blessing".
But that being said, can you, in a nutshell, tell me what the "Preterists" believe? Don't tell anybody, but I never heard the term before I logged onto AFF.
First, I'll just admit that I am NOT an Eschatology student. I have strong feelings about Daniel and Revelation. And my strong feelings are, that all those who try to figure it all out are wasting their time. The book of Revelation is a GREAT book and is a GREAT blessing. Many read the book looking for mysteries and miss "The blessing".
But that being said, can you, in a nutshell, tell me what the "Preterists" believe? Don't tell anybody, but I never heard the term before I logged onto AFF.
They believe Christ returned in 70 ad when Rome destroyed Jerusalem.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
They don't know how else to make Luke 21:32 true, among others.
I've always heard that verse connected with the re-establishment of Israel as a nation in 1948. And a generation being 40 years and added onto that, 1988 being the "Last year". That didn't work out either, did it?
But with the common consideration of a generation being 40 years, 70AD was 30 years past that. Oh well, whatever.
Seriously??? So where is He now, then? And what are we doing?
THAT'S what they believe??? Holy smoke.
There are some good discussions on AFF on the subject. And you will find tons of articles if you google it. Parson had some interesting discussions with MBlume. I like the Parchment and Pen blog so here is an article by Michael Patton.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
There are some good discussions on AFF on the subject. And you will find tons of articles if you google it. Parson had some interesting discussions with MBlume. I like the Parchment and Pen blog so here is an article by Michael Patton.
Yeah, I just googled it and wow. I've been out of the theology/eschatology debate loop for 15 years and I had never heard of it. I've seen the term "Preterism" here a good bit but never really researched it.
I'm just not into the "endtime" debate. No one has the answers and it's a bunch of debate about something that can't be figured out. In bible school, I'd sit back and laugh at all the red-in-the-face prophecy guys yelling at each other and I've never been more interested than I was then. My only duty is to follow Jesus Christ and lead as many people as possible to his grace. Outside of that, God can do whatever He likes with the endtimes. I'll be ready either way.
My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. 
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