Well, I gotta go for now. It's time for my favorite program.
Real Family Time
Who needs carefully crafted "entertainment" when you have God and all his gifts running around the house.
Peace be to you and your TV.
i am still at work. hate that.
when I get home there will be serious family time. me laying on the floor and Toddler Ferd jumping on me yelling "more!"
that is about all my back can take but it sure is fun. at some point in the background will be the Mavs game. if they loose this one I may swear off tv for good!
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I never understood why someone would want to be part of an org and sign something they don't believe or practice.
Either you agree with and live by the 'by laws' or you don't.
I wonder how many parents think it is a great idea to tell their kids "If you don't like all my rules kid you can run away from home and not be a part of this family"
uhhh.... I think these folks must be "Independent"!
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Very nice! Steve Stephens is a very underrated guitarist.
Anyhoo, while I certainly understand where Hoover, Ferd, and Prax are coming from I think we still must account for the verbage in the AS. (of which I have no idea). But does it say anything about preaching against such mediums? Do liscensed preachers not sign that they will not have one in their home? Does it address advertisement?
Well, I cant speak for everyone. I cant even speak for myself, as i dont hold a licenes even though I preach in, attend only UPCI churches.
But let me say, I am a 5th Gen Pentecostal. my home church was part of the merger. Both my family and my ministerial heritage are UPCI going back to before there was a UPCI, so asking me to leave the UPCI would be like asking me to leave my own home.
I know there are a lot of men who do hold licenes and feel the same as I do. It is the only home they know and leaving the UPCI sperates them from the only fellowship they have ever known.
doctrinally it is a dangerous world out there. you leave your tether and you are set loose in a sea of shifting doctrine and it is hard to be stable without being in fellowship with like minded men.
this is key. I know a lot of guys that left for good reason but over time, more things changed than they intended. Ive even had a guy tell me NOT to leave no matter what....for this reason. he left and wishes it could be un-done. sad.
so, what you end up with is smart guys that by and large agree with the fundimental doctrine of the UPCI and agree with the stated goals and mission statement, but have a few ancillary issues with some of the "rules"
and folk want them to burn down the only home they have ever known because they dont agree with a couple of minor house rules.
I dont have a problem with these guys staying. In fact i prefer it. I would rather the org be changed from with in.
Ferd,
This is the best explanation I have seen on this forum!!! I can give you a big AMEN that you are right on with this statement!
Well, I cant speak for everyone. I cant even speak for myself, as i dont hold a licenes even though I preach in, attend only UPCI churches.
But let me say, I am a 5th Gen Pentecostal. my home church was part of the merger. Both my family and my ministerial heritage are UPCI going back to before there was a UPCI, so asking me to leave the UPCI would be like asking me to leave my own home.
I know there are a lot of men who do hold licenes and feel the same as I do. It is the only home they know and leaving the UPCI sperates them from the only fellowship they have ever known.
doctrinally it is a dangerous world out there. you leave your tether and you are set loose in a sea of shifting doctrine and it is hard to be stable without being in fellowship with like minded men.
This is key. I know a lot of guys that left for good reason but over time, more things changed than they intended. Ive even had a guy tell me NOT to leave no matter what....for this reason. he left and wishes it could be un-done. sad.
so, what you end up with is smart guys that by and large agree with the fundimental doctrine of the UPCI and agree with the stated goals and mission statement, but have a few ancillary issues with some of the "rules"
and folk want them to burn down the only home they have ever known because they dont agree with a couple of minor house rules.
I dont have a problem with these guys staying. In fact i prefer it. I would rather the org be changed from with in.
My hat's off to ya!
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