I knew you'd come around! You know, this thread wasn't going anywhere so I thought I'd help it out. So hey, jfrog, are you oneness, twoness, or threeness? Are you Jesus name or non-Jesus name?
C'mon guys. We (myself included) do so much UPC bashing here.
Why not allow someone who is familiar with missions work and with various Oneness Pentecostal organizations say something good about the UPC?
Be honest, there's lots of good people in the UPC and the UPC as an organization does lots of good stuff.
I have no problem chiming in with you. I've often said that I hate the system and love the people.
I have no problem chiming in with you. I've often said that I hate the system and love the people.
I hate some of the people sometimes too... And before anyone bashes me for that... Stop for a second and ask yourself whether everyone here actually loves them all the time or whether jfrog is the only one honest enough to admit he hates some of them sometimes...
I hate some of the people sometimes too... And before anyone bashes me for that... Stop for a second and ask yourself whether everyone here actually loves them all the time or whether jfrog is the only one honest enough to admit he hates some of them sometimes...
Picky, picky, picky. Ok fine, I love some of the people.
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But the point is still not lost that there is a distinct and OH SO IMPORTANT, difference in the orgs that you mention and those who practice baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ. Yes, many of the "oneness" trinitarians use the name of Jesus in prayer, some what hypocritically, to be honest and true to their refusal to use the name of Jesus Christ in baptism, they should also refuse its use in all cases including prayer. They should close all their prayers in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost!
Okay, I know this is off topic, and I appologize, and I DO appreciate Sister's point, BUT this bothers me so much that I have to reply
If the NAME of the father, son and Holy Ghost is Jesus, then doing something in the name of (or by the authority of) the Father, Son and Holy Ghost is the same as doing it in the name of (or by the authority of) JESUS. Doing something in the name of the President of the U.S.A. is the SAME as doing it in the name of Barak Obama.
Trinitarian churches honor the command to do ALL things in the name of Jesus, they just interpret Jesus words with regard to baptism differently. Based on a oneness belief, the two statements of gramatically identical.
Now back to your originally scheduled thread, already in progress.........
Okay, I know this is off topic, and I appologize, and I DO appreciate Sister's point, BUT this bothers me so much that I have to reply
If the NAME of the father, son and Holy Ghost is Jesus, then doing something in the name of (or by the authority of) the Father, Son and Holy Ghost is the same as doing it in the name of (or by the authority of) JESUS. Doing something in the name of the President of the U.S.A. is the SAME as doing it in the name of Barak Obama.
Trinitarian churches honor the command to do ALL things in the name of Jesus, they just interpret Jesus words with regard to baptism differently. Based on a oneness belief, the two statements of gramatically identical.
Now back to your originally scheduled thread, already in progress.........
No, no, no, no.......that's WAY too simple and makes WAY too much sense. You obviously aren't very learned in the scriptures, or denominational politics, for that matter. You see, if we make a monstrous, huge flippin' deal out of nothing, then we can have a separate denomination and create more positions of power. You've gotta get with it, Snicker. There are deep, deep, deep, deep hidden truths in the bible and have only been unlocked by certain people. All the other poor suckers are going to hell. God desires to burn forever those idiots that couldn't figure out the Godhead.
You're making way too much sense and making sense isn't acceptable in religion.
I stand corrected. I am not dense after all! I am "deliberately obtuse." Wow, that sounds WAY better than "dense." This reminds me of when I was a paperboy. I preferred to call myself a "Newspaper Distribution Engineer."
So am I being "deliberately obtuse" when I call on you......again.....to respond to my response in the Winterfest thread when you said you were "striving to be righteous"?