Taking the Bible Seriously But Not Literally

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Have you ever considered the postulate of some that Mars was once one of those planets?

Yes I first read the Face On Mars in 1988. Other unusual things have been discovered since then.

[Praxeas]

There is no face on Mars

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Indeed. They do not have a design that would lend themselves to such a use.

Well step on through the stargate and discover a whole new world

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

There is no face on Mars

Can you prove that? And I never said that it proved angelic civilization there. But it got me interested in the topic. Have you seen the unusual photos coming back from Mars?

Look at the image at 3 min 40 sec.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aROqWGZ3gDg

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Did they use tar? BTW if the flood was not global they would not have needed to put giraffes or hippos on it.

Even if so, it would be just 2 of each

And seven of the "clean" animals.

... and keep in mind... the whole class of dinosaurs known as Ornithischia (the "bird hipped" dinosaurs) would have been "clean" - so that means seven of all the different species of Ornithischia - which includes all of the different species of stegosaurus, the Ankylosauria, the various Raptor species, etc.

But how can you possibly expect to get all those creatures on a wooden vessel that is less than 300 feet in length?

I know, I know... "Noah's Ark" was actually a great deal more than 300 feet in length... but:

No wooden vessels have ever been constructed longer than 300 feet and been sea worthy. See: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/woodmorappe-review.html

There's even a church in Maryland that tried to build a building to the dimensions of "Noah's Ark" - but they couldn't get the permits because no structure of any kind is allowed to be built solely of wood in excess of 300 feet - according to the uniform building code. So, they had to add steel cross members for rigidity and concrete piers (see attached picture).

Why hasn't anyone actually built an actual replica of Noah's Ark just to prove all of the naysayers wrong? Surely someone like Pat Robertson or Benny "Billionaire" Hinn has the resources to set us all straight.

There is a guy in Holland who has built a scaled down version of the Ark. His is just 229 feet long - and even then, he had to use a steel hull just to get a license to host pier-side passengers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan's_Ark

http://www.arkvannoach.com/ Click the English flag for a (sort of) English translation of the website.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Can you prove that? And I never said that it proved angelic civilization there. But it got me interested in the topic. Have you seen the unusual photos coming back from Mars?

I've seen the unusual photo's when the shadows were not just in the right position to make the illusion of a face

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Yes I first read the Face On Mars in 1988. Other unusual things have been discovered since then.

No they haven't.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Brother David

And seven of the "clean" animals.

... and keep in mind... the whole class of dinosaurs known as Ornithischia (the "bird hipped" dinosaurs) would have been "clean" - so that means seven of all the different species of Ornithischia - which includes all of the different species of stegosaurus, the Ankylosauria, the various Raptor species, etc.

But how can you possibly expect to get all those creatures on a wooden vessel that is less than 300 feet in length?

I know, I know... "Noah's Ark" was actually a great deal more than 300 feet in length... but:

No wooden vessels have ever been constructed longer than 300 feet and been sea worthy. See: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/woodmorappe-review.html

There's even a church in Maryland that tried to build a building to the dimensions of "Noah's Ark" - but they couldn't get the permits because no structure of any kind is allowed to be built solely of wood in excess of 300 feet - according to the uniform building code. So, they had to add steel cross members for rigidity and concrete piers (see attached picture).

Why hasn't anyone actually built an actual replica of Noah's Ark just to prove all of the naysayers wrong? Surely someone like Pat Robertson or Benny "Billionaire" Hinn has the resources to set us all straight.

There is a guy in Holland who has built a scaled down version of the Ark. His is just 229 feet long - and even then, he had to use a steel hull just to get a license to host pier-side passengers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan's_Ark

http://www.arkvannoach.com/ Click the English flag for a (sort of) English translation of the website.

Dinos? In Noah's day?

BTW all these kinds of discussions totally remove the miraculous from the equation

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Brother David

And seven of the "clean" animals.

... and keep in mind... the whole class of dinosaurs known as Ornithischia (the "bird hipped" dinosaurs) would have been "clean" - so that means seven of all the different species of Ornithischia - which includes all of the different species of stegosaurus, the Ankylosauria, the various Raptor species, etc.

But how can you possibly expect to get all those creatures on a wooden vessel that is less than 300 feet in length?

I know, I know... "Noah's Ark" was actually a great deal more than 300 feet in length... but:

No wooden vessels have ever been constructed longer than 300 feet and been sea worthy. See: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/woodmorappe-review.html

There's even a church in Maryland that tried to build a building to the dimensions of "Noah's Ark" - but they couldn't get the permits because no structure of any kind is allowed to be built solely of wood in excess of 300 feet - according to the uniform building code. So, they had to add steel cross members for rigidity and concrete piers (see attached picture).

Why hasn't anyone actually built an actual replica of Noah's Ark just to prove all of the naysayers wrong? Surely someone like Pat Robertson or Benny "Billionaire" Hinn has the resources to set us all straight.

There is a guy in Holland who has built a scaled down version of the Ark. His is just 229 feet long - and even then, he had to use a steel hull just to get a license to host pier-side passengers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan's_Ark

http://www.arkvannoach.com/ Click the English flag for a (sort of) English translation of the website.

Just a side point here... I think a careful study of Genesis will bear out that they were to bring 4 (2 male & 2 female) unclean & 14 (7 male & 7 female) clean animals on board.

And... concerning the species of dinosaur that would have been on board... I repeat... there is no stipulation that they be adult specimens. They could have been juvenile specimens.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Can you prove that? And I never said that it proved angelic civilization there. But it got me interested in the topic. Have you seen the unusual photos coming back from Mars?

Look at the image at 3 min 40 sec.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aROqWGZ3gDg

I have not seen any unusual photos from Mars except this one. But honestly I don't see a "face" in it, unless your really squint your eyes.