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Old 01-29-2010, 06:50 PM
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Re: Do Blacks Want To Transcend Race?

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I think Renda said there are parts of Memphis that are that way too!!!

Although the reasoning may be a bit different.
No, there is some bad stuff in Memphis too.
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No, there is some bad stuff in Memphis too.
Really?

I know the crime is bad in some parts and that is what I was referring to.

I didn't think there was blatant racism in Memphis on a sizable scale.

Isn't Memphis considered to be a major city?
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Really?

I know the crime is bad in some parts and that is what I was referring to.

I didn't think there was blatant racism in Memphis on a sizable scale.

Isn't Memphis considered to be a major city?
I was talking about crime too, not race in particular.

I think a lot of racism now is subtle.
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I was talking about crime too, not race in particular.

I think a lot of racism now is subtle.
From all ends of the spectrum too.


Do you think Matthews' remark was biggoted in someway?

Somehow a freudian slip, revealing his preconceived ideas that circle around all blacks are like this, act like this, speak like this and etc?
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From all ends of the spectrum too.


Do you think Matthews' remark was biggoted in someway?

Somehow a freudian slip, revealing his preconceived ideas that circle around all blacks are like this, act like this, speak like this and etc?
No, not really. I think a lot of people of both races are careful of how they speak publicly, and some not careful enough. And of course those that just don't care what people think about what they say.
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No, not really. I think a lot of people of both races are careful of how they speak publicly, and some not careful enough. And of course those that just don't care what people think about what they say.
I hate when good people get a bum rap by folks who refuse to take the time to think about who they're accusing and they're accusing them of.


Chris Matthews is not a bigot.

Neither do I think it right that folks have to tip-toe on EVERYTHING concerning race in America!

People need to get a grip, for real.
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Chris Matthews or Harry Reid makes comments like this, it's okay. Could even be a compliment according to some....

However, were Limbaugh, Hannity or any other white, conservative talk show host or FoxNews anchor/contributor were to say the same things ... oh the fury that would have been unleashed.

Hypocrisy at its finest, ladies and gentlemen.

JD, be honest, if it were someone else like I listed above ... would you still have been ok with it. Doubtful. I almost guarantee you if Limbaugh would've said it, you'd be foaming at the mouth talking about how mean he is and how much you'd love to just spit on his grave.

Again, hypocrisy.
It proves race is just politics and it shows to me that people that cry "Racism" are not that sincere about the issue as they are about politics and power
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We've been conditioned to believe ANYTHING said about blacks by whites should be viewed as racism especially if you are a conservative.

If Chris Rock had called those lady basket ball players Nappy headed hos...everyone would have laughed
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We've been conditioned to believe ANYTHING said about blacks by whites should be viewed as racism especially if you are a conservative.

If Chris Rock had called those lady basket ball players Nappy headed hos...everyone would have laughed
Not everyone.

I can remember very recently that there was a push by many to get away from the mainstreaming of blatant disrespect to black women.

The backlash started in the music industry, before Imus.

The Imus case added rocket fuel to an already sensitive situation.


Chris Rock would have been strongly criticized by many-- if it had been him at that exact moment making that same joke. However, it would not have caused the stir it did for Imus.

This wasn't Imus' first race-related offense though, right?

It's not like Imus and Chris Matthews had the same bio, right?
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Oh yeah, wise to be concerned. There were parts of those states that people locked their car doors, while driving through.
I lock my car doors driving through areas of SW Ohio.

I usually keep the doors in my house locked.

I avoid going downtown into Cincinnati and I sure wouldn't want to be there at night.
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