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12-07-2009, 01:33 PM
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Cross-examine it!
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Re: What I have learned from AFF
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Originally Posted by mrnbcox
Yes he did. that wasn't the problem. Go read the thread.
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What thread?
Jesus prayed to God. Is that statement a problem for you?
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12-07-2009, 01:33 PM
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Re: What I have learned from AFF
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Originally Posted by mrnbcox
IF someone is not a One God, Jesus Name Baptisim, HOly Ghost filled with evidence of speaking in Tongues, living a seperated life of consecration to God christian... they can still be saved.
Trinitarians can remain trinitarians and still go to Heaven.
Tounges is not the intial sign of the Holy Ghost
Baptisim isn't as important to be Jesus name only.
Jesus may not be God, possibly a second...
Appearance doesn't matter to God
Its not a sin for women to:
Cut their hair
Wear Pants
Jewelry
Make-Up
did I miss anything?
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You haven't been here long enough to learn anything.  |
Pow!!!
That one's gonna leave a mark. 
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12-07-2009, 01:34 PM
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Re: What I have learned from AFF
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Originally Posted by mrnbcox
I draw my conluson about his divinity by comments made about Jesus praying, etc...
Nobody flat out said he was not God.
Sorry to cause confusion.
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Ah, I see. I made these alleged comments, and I assure you that I believe fully that Jesus is God come in flesh. My points about Jesus praying weren't about taking away His divinity. Not even hinted, subtly hinted or suggested in the least.
The point was discussing the explanation of His godhead in the standard Trinity vs. Oneness debate. I ascribe to Oneness theology, but perhaps approach the subject humbly, realizing I don't beat my breast because I know and fully understand the godhead. It's confounding to say the least. And no matter which side you support (Oneness or one of the 31 flavors of Trinity) we all have to overcome the mystery factor, and use language at some point to make that leap in logic. The prayer in the garden was an example.
I strongly recommend approaching these topics with attempting to understand what is being said.
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12-07-2009, 01:34 PM
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Old Fashioned Pentecost
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Re: What I have learned from AFF
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
So you made a flippant remark without knowing the facts about the person you're talking to? Wisdom is showing, Mr. Cox.  |
About as much as the flippant remark about how little 19 yr olds know... 
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12-07-2009, 01:34 PM
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Re: What I have learned from AFF
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Originally Posted by mrnbcox
The mind is never so resourceful as when justifying ones self.
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Did you make that up? If not, you should give credit to the source.
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12-07-2009, 01:34 PM
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Re: What I have learned from AFF
I think I'll just sit back and read for a while. This could be interesting...... 
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12-07-2009, 01:35 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: What I have learned from AFF
And YET people like you, claiming to be Apostolics while making sure to tell everyone else that does not believe just like you that they are not...keep coming here. Now why is that?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-07-2009, 01:35 PM
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Old Fashioned Pentecost
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Re: What I have learned from AFF
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
Ah, I see. I made these alleged comments, and I assure you that I believe fully that Jesus is God come in flesh. My points about Jesus praying weren't about taking away His divinity. Not even hinted, subtly hinted or suggested in the least.
The point was discussing the explanation of His godhead in the standard Trinity vs. Oneness debate. I ascribe to Oneness theology, but perhaps approach the subject humbly, realizing I don't beat my breast because I know and fully understand the godhead. It's confounding to say the least. And no matter which side you support (Oneness or one of the 31 flavors of Trinity) we all have to overcome the mystery factor, and use language at some point to make that leap in logic. The prayer in the garden was an example.
I strongly recommend approaching these topics with attempting to understand what is being said.
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Thank you for clearing that up for me! 
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12-07-2009, 01:36 PM
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Cross-examine it!
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Re: What I have learned from AFF
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Originally Posted by mrnbcox
I dont know, you havent stated what you did or didn't believe.
You tell me?
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So you just assumed what I believed?
The issue isn't so much what I believed, but my assurance that it was true.
Yes, I have changed my views but perhaps I am less dogmatic about them this time around.
The only thing I know for sure is that the Redskins losing yesterday was one of the best things I have seen this week.
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12-07-2009, 01:36 PM
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Re: What I have learned from AFF
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
And YET people like you, claiming to be Apostolics while making sure to tell everyone else that does not believe just like you that they are not...keep coming here. Now why is that?
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Because I work at a bank, and I get bored on our slow days and have nothing better to do!
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