The book fo Revelation is multifaceted, dynamic, and multidimensional. That is the nature of prophecy. For example a prophetic utterance might go forth and apply to many different peoples lives in many different ways in any given moment in time, a period of time, or series of moments in time.
For those of the first century the Revelation spoke directly to them and the circumstances unfolding within their generation (Preterism). For those living during the dark ages of the church the shadows of prophecy loom historically as the spirit of antichrist is seen in the Roman Catholic Church (historicism). Within the very writ of the Revelation we see spiritual principles and depictions that are spiritually relevant to all believers in every age in any location (Spiritual). Yet still the Revelation serves to possibly unfold more horrendous events yet to unfold in the future culminating in what is often referred to as the Armaggeddon.
Sadly, one track minds who cannot interpret scripture transdimentionally or in a multifacetted manner are lost to the truths espoused by every eschatological position. Depending on subject matter and historical context any given interpretation may indeed be found bearing truth.
Often those who espouse a position apart from the traditional Futurist interpretation pride themselves for thinking outside of the box. However, they only leap from one box to another. Loose the boxes all together and embrace the truths that pour fourth from the fountain of spiritual insight and revelation that apply to all believers, in all places, in any given context, in any given period or moment in time.
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Maybe you were. But it brings up an excellent point. Preterists, while accurately depicting what prophecy meant to those living in the first cenutry, are blind to the reality of the Revelation's shadows that speak just as strongly to the future. Futurists fail to see the relevance of prophetic fulfillment to those living in the first century while rightfully watching for the Revelation's future relevance.
Maybe you were. But it brings up an excellent point. Preterists, while accurately depicting what prophecy meant to those living in the first cenutry, are blind to the reality of the Revelation's shadows that speak just as strongly to the future. Futurists fail to see the relevance of prophetic fulfillment to those living in the first century while rightfully watching for the Revelation's future relevance.
thisthreadisaboutglobalwarmingandwhyitaintmanmade
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Willing to wager your immortal soul before God and man here on this thread on the notion that man has nothing to do with it?
My point is that the Word of God describes a time when the sun is given authority to scortch man with great heat. You'll notice that the text doesn't depict it's cause as being strictly geological or coincidental... but rather it is the result of man's sinfulness and refusal to repent. Sins of greed, exploitation, and degradation would be a major factor if man is contributing to the situation. The love of money will drive greedy men to exploit and degrade their own world. Yes, they'd destroy the planet to make a dollar. That's idolatry of the hightest order...and for it they will reap the heat wave their greed has contirbuted to.
Willing to wager your immortal soul before God and man here on this thread on the notion that man has nothing to do with it?
My point is that the Word of God describes a time when the sun is given authority to scortch man with great heat. You'll notice that the text doesn't depict it's cause as being strictly geological or coincidental... but rather it is the result of man's sinfulness and refusal to repent. Sins of greed, exploitation, and degradation would be a major factor if man is contributing to the situation. The love of money will drive greedy men to exploit and degrade their own world. Yes, they'd destroy the planet to make a dollar. That's idolatry of the hightest order...and for it they will reap the heat wave their greed has contirbuted to.
What happened in the 1200's (see Fernando's chart) that caused the Almighty Being to scortch the earth with such intensity? I hear the plumbing was particularly bad.
Willing to wager your immortal soul before God and man here on this thread on the notion that man has nothing to do with it?
My point is that the Word of God describes a time when the sun is given authority to scortch man with great heat. You'll notice that the text doesn't depict it's cause as being strictly geological or coincidental... but rather it is the result of man's sinfulness and refusal to repent. Sins of greed, exploitation, and degradation would be a major factor if man is contributing to the situation. The love of money will drive greedy men to exploit and degrade their own world. Yes, they'd destroy the planet to make a dollar. That's idolatry of the hightest order...and for it they will reap the heat wave their greed has contirbuted to.
Isnt there a biblical prohabition to wagering your immortal soul?
I dont tempt God my fine brother......
now back to the question. do you believe that global warming is a man made thing? in terms of the current climate?
do you believe that CO2 in particular is causing the earth to warm?
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If this is the time when the sun is scorching the earth...then why the widespread reports every year recently that it was COOLER than normal?
Its a hoax folks. The climate is in transition. It is getting warmer in some areas, but cooler in others. Big deal. I remember having tons of snow in the winters here in central Ohio. Now...we get almost none until February. However, there are places that didn't used to get much snow who now get loads of it.
Isnt there a biblical prohabition to wagering your immortal soul?
I dont tempt God my fine brother......
now back to the question. do you believe that global warming is a man made thing? in terms of the current climate?
do you believe that CO2 in particular is causing the earth to warm?
I believe that climate change (if not the wrath of God) is primarily natural in origin. Climates do change naturally. However, I also believe that the earth has a delicate natural balance. I think climate change is happening more drastically than in past climate shifts. This is most evident in the polar regions and other regions where the balance in the local environment is more sensitive. While man's CO2 emissions aren't significant in comparison to natural phenomena, man's CO2 emissions may prove to be the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back.
I remember hearing about a 400 year old Redwood that was very very tall. Apparently some rot had set in and it was dying. One day it fell. It didn't fall from strong winds, it wasn't hit by lightening. It would appear that perhaps it had become so weakened that under it's emense weight a point of critical balance was reached. All it may have taken was a tiny sparrow gentley landing on a Northern branch to bring the tree crashing down.
I think that the earth's environment may be like this to some degree. Man's impact may be miniscule when compared to nautral geological events such as volcanos etc... but it may be the tiny sparrow that sets the entire system off balance.
If this is the time when the sun is scorching the earth...then why the widespread reports every year recently that it was COOLER than normal?
Its a hoax folks. The climate is in transition. It is getting warmer in some areas, but cooler in others. Big deal. I remember having tons of snow in the winters here in central Ohio. Now...we get almost none until February. However, there are places that didn't used to get much snow who now get loads of it.
Global Warming doesn't necessarily mean universal warming around the globe. It means that there are measured temperature increases in areas significant enough to change weather patterns faster and more drastically than what has been observed in geological history. So yes, as weather patterns change to accomodate warm fronts over the oceans you'll see some areas getting snow and colder temperatures than in the past while others indeed do get warmer.
Isnt there a biblical prohabition to wagering your immortal soul?
I dont tempt God my fine brother......
now back to the question. do you believe that global warming is a man made thing? in terms of the current climate?
do you believe that CO2 in particular is causing the earth to warm?
Of course global warming is caused by you ugly americans! Remember when you had to get your ac freon changed from R12 to R22? It was all the freon escaping from your american cars that caused the hole in the ozone to get bigger thus releasing all the cool air.
Supposedly changing your AC freon was supposed to help. Did it? Are you feeling cooler now?
Did you see that article from that President of a former soviet state that called the environmental movement to commnunism. It is all about the control of people.
I will try to find the link but he was on a talk show last year.