Health Care Bill passes House

[Nitehawk013]

Very very few have an extra $400 a month for Gov healthcare. That is exactly what Obama and the Dems want!

Whenit is mandatory, but no one can afford it, Obama and his sickening ilk will come up with some more great and heroic Government social programs to "help" us. It is all about expanding Federal control. Socialism as a vehicle for his and the Lefts fascistic views.

[SOUNWORTHY]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I honestly do not see this passing in the Senate. With all of the tea parties and the public out cry. Pelosi will be hanging her party out to dry in 2012. Well, if that's what it takes.

This administration couldn't care less about public outcry. The evil witch of the south and her gang have no feelings or love for our country and it's working class people. Don't forget all the illegal aliens they may make legal voting citizens will be not be voting conservative. I'm afraid they may just have it in the bag.

[drummerboy_dave]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

I hope the food is good in jail.

LOL It ain't in mine and I'm the cook.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Nitehawk013

Very very few have an extra $400 a month for Gov healthcare. That is exactly what Obama and the Dems want!

Whenit is mandatory, but no one can afford it, Obama and his sickening ilk will come up with some more great and heroic Government social programs to "help" us. It is all about expanding Federal control. Socialism as a vehicle for his and the Lefts fascistic views.

Yes, taxes will increase. But that’s not the whole story.

On the private market it’s not uncommon for a family of four to be paying an average of $600 to $700 a month in premiums for a plan that truly meets their family’s needs. If their taxes increased $400 a month and they took the public option with a negotiated monthly premium of $50 to $100, that equals to paying a total of $450 to $500 a month. Compare that to the $600 to $700 monthly premium they were paying. So even with tax increases, negotiated premiums in a public option will be significantly less, thereby offsetting the tax increase and equaling a savings.

Question… Would you rather pay a total of between $450 and $500 a month out of pocket under Obama’s public option or the $600 to $700 a month (and rising) out of pocket for the private insurance?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Yes, taxes will increase. But that’s not the whole story.

On the private market it’s not uncommon for a family of four to be paying an average of $600 to $700 a month in premiums for a plan that truly meets their family’s needs. If their taxes increased $400 a month and they took the public option with a negotiated monthly premium of $50 to $100, that equals to paying a total of $450 to $500 a month. Compare that to the $600 to $700 monthly premium they were paying. So even with tax increases, negotiated premiums in a public option will be significantly less, thereby offsetting the tax increase and equaling a savings.

Question… Would you rather pay a total of between $450 and $500 a month out of pocket under Obama’s public option or the $600 to $700 a month (and rising) out of pocket for the private insurance?

No, I would rather have open competition and not with the government who can continue printing money or raising taxes. Private companies do not have that luxury. That gives the government an unfair advantage and it would put the private sector at a huge loss.

We need to reform the system by allowing insurance companies to compete across state lines. We should, at least, begin there. The only plans that are currently available for purchase are plans that are offered from companies based within the state that you reside. Two or three having the monopoly.

If competition across state lines were open, people would be able to purchase the most affordable plans for their families. That gives them the American right to free choice and free enterprise. That, in itself, would cause all rates to come down because the insurance companies would want to remain competitive.

[Pressing-On]

Some are saying that the Republicans shouldn't have voted in favor of the Stupak Amendment, but I'm not sure I agree with that.

Mike Pence was saying that voting for the amendment had nothing to do with voting for the bill overall.

I don't see how they could have voted against the Stupak Amendment. The alternative Republican healthcare bill wording does not allow for Federal funding for abortion unless there is the case of emergency - rape, mother's life in danger, etc.

That is one reason why I believe the Republicans voted in favor of the Stupak - it pushed the Democrats against the wall. I think Pelosi thought she pushed the Republicans in a corner, but I think it backfired.

Anyway, found this clip showing that what many expected - many Democrats will try to have the wording left out of the bill when it gets to the Senate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6tb4...layer_embedded

DOA

[Pressing-On]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FWQN...layer_embedded

GOP Congressman: If Healthcare Bill Is So Fabulous, Why Criminalize Those Who Want To Opt-Out?

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by drummerboy_dave

LOL It ain't in mine and I'm the cook.

Well, if I end up in yours, try to sneak me in something good!

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Yes, taxes will increase. But that’s not the whole story.

On the private market it’s not uncommon for a family of four to be paying an average of $600 to $700 a month in premiums for a plan that truly meets their family’s needs. If their taxes increased $400 a month and they took the public option with a negotiated monthly premium of $50 to $100, that equals to paying a total of $450 to $500 a month. Compare that to the $600 to $700 monthly premium they were paying. So even with tax increases, negotiated premiums in a public option will be significantly less, thereby offsetting the tax increase and equaling a savings.

Question… Would you rather pay a total of between $450 and $500 a month out of pocket under Obama’s public option or the $600 to $700 a month (and rising) out of pocket for the private insurance?

This doesn't address people who currently don't have insurance because they CAN'T AFFORD it.

[drummerboy_dave]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

Well, if I end up in yours, try to sneak me in something good!

I'll see what I can do.