1Ti 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
Tts 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
Tts 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne
I think it would be a good idea to post scripture in context.
Jesus rebuked the naysayers and accusers more so than He did sinners.
The context of the scriptures are that Paul is speaking to the ministry as to what they should do. The minister has the authority to rebuke openly them that sin. Whether you or I like that or not, they have scripute to do this. I do understand that there is a time and season for everything. Maybe this woman would not have got her heart right unless it was an open rebuke? All I know is that she was diagnosed with a problem that was life threatening to her, and given the cause. She responded by repenting and getting her heart right with her husband, and with God, and when she returned to the doctor, the issue was no more. I say Glory to God!!!
Again, I think it is funny that some take issue over how something was done, when the woman responded positively, and was declared by the doctors as being OK.
I think the word IF in James 5:15 would inticate that at times the sickness is BECAUSE of SIN.
Not every time, but some of the time.
Also verse 16 tells us (the Church) how to get healed.
James 5:14-16
14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
KJV
I was listening to a well known UPC preacher preach on CD this morning and this is what he said verbatim.
“This lady is dying, there is a malignancy in her body, and it is there because of her attitude toward her husband.”
Doctors diagnosed two terminal diseases. The preacher told her to repent to her husband and work things out with him.
Later she went back to the doctors and they said that she was misdiagnosed.
What I wonder about is does God allow people to have disease because of sin or in this case the ladies attitude toward her husband?
Yes, He does, John Wimber one of the most proficient healers of our time, said that 40% of illnesses that he prayed for were related to sinful habits, unforgivingness, bitterness or inward things.
There seems to be a real connection between emotional problems, sin, and sickness. This is not a blanket in every case thing, but there definitely is a connection.
There are sicknesses onto death, chastisement and the glory of God.
Are you saying you'd believe them if they said everything was gone that was there previously, but you don't believe them when they say she was misdiagnosed?
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Yes, He does, John Wimber one of the most proficient healers of our time, said that 40% of illnesses that he prayed for were related to sinful habits, unforgivingness, bitterness or inward things.
There seems to be a real connection between emotional problems, sin, and sickness. This is not a blanket in every case thing, but there definitely is a connection.
There are sicknesses onto death, chastisement and the glory of God.
I would love to know how he came up with that 40% figure.
The context of the scriptures are that Paul is speaking to the ministry as to what they should do. The minister has the authority to rebuke openly them that sin. Whether you or I like that or not, they have scripute to do this. I do understand that there is a time and season for everything. Maybe this woman would not have got her heart right unless it was an open rebuke? All I know is that she was diagnosed with a problem that was life threatening to her, and given the cause. She responded by repenting and getting her heart right with her husband, and with God, and when she returned to the doctor, the issue was no more. I say Glory to God!!!
Again, I think it is funny that some take issue over how something was done, when the woman responded positively, and was declared by the doctors as being OK.
For one thing, no post on this thread said anything about her being ok, only that she was misdiagnosed.
For another, we all sin. Do you think your pastor should openly rebuke you in front of the church everytime you sin? Do you think many people would come to church in that was taking place? Would any preaching even get done?
In addition, when putting scripture in context, we see that Paul was speaking of rebuking ELDERS that sinned, not the saints.
1 Tim 5:19 Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses.
20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
IOW, if two or three witnesses come forward with an accusation, the accused are to be rebuked before everyone because the sin has come to light.
As for your other verses, rebuking in a general sense is acceptable. Those verses say nothing about rebuking an individual in front of others.
Context, context, context. It's quite obvious what Paul was saying when you read ALL the scripture.
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Stress is know to cause all kinds of trouble physically. Every notice getting a cold sore when you're really stressed out? Mental attitude does effect the human body. So yes sin can be the cause illness.
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