Obama czar: Abolish marriage!?

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by coadie

mARRIAGE IS THE ISSUE. Marriage is a covenant as described in most vows. The world treats it like a change of batteries. Yopu describe a very ungodly veiw toward marriage.



Don't ever let lawyers minimize it. They put money before God's plan. .

How does removing state regulation of marriage harm the covenant? I think it's silly to have to get a piece of paper from the government to validate a sacred union before God.

Divorce isn't about a union...it's the destruction of a union, so the courts are sought out to make it fair for both parties regarding children and property. That isn't an "ungodly" view; that's a factual view of the divorce process.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

How does removing state regulation of marriage harm the covenant? I think it's silly to have to get a piece of paper from the government to validate a sacred union before God.

Divorce isn't about a union...it's the destruction of a union, so the courts are sought out to make it fair for both parties regarding children and property. That isn't an "ungodly" view; that's a factual view of the divorce process.

Things go alot smoother when you are on my side! You should agree with me more often jkjk

[MissBrattified]

Whatever I can do to help.

[SOUNWORTHY]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Is this a rational line of thought? Really?

Won't this free churches from potentially being required to perform a religious ceremony for a gay couple? The lack of state regulation could be a VERY good thing.

Hey Miss B. Don't read me wrong I believe gays as well as Pedophiles are perverted.

Gays will still try to force churches to perform ceremonies just to push their agenda.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY

Hey Miss B. Don't read me wrong I believe gays as well as Pedophiles are perverted.

Gays will still try to force churches to perform ceremonies just to push their agenda.

Yes, but if the marriage ceremony is a church function, and the state gives civil unions for legal purposes, what reason would they have for forcing churches to perform ceremonies? They would get the legal recognition and benefits they want, and the church would have no involvement.

Wouldn't that protect the rights of the church, rather than infringe upon them?

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by coadie

mARRIAGE IS THE ISSUE. Marriage is a covenant as described in most vows. The world treats it like a change of batteries. Yopu describe a very ungodly veiw toward marriage.



Don't ever let lawyers minimize it. They put money before God's plan. .

You need your batteries changed, your beginning to sound like a broken record.

Marriage is a covenant that rightfully belongs to the church, the state should never have been involved in to begin with. You have shown on a number of subjects your complete lack of understanding on anything to do with the law. Divorce isn't about the marriage covenant, the state is involved for the purpose of what is to be done with the kids and the property.

If you recall there is a reason that God had laws for divorce, it was to protect those who were the most vulnerable. Even though divorce isn't God's plan he knew that those who could not protect themselves needed protection. But you would rather ask a woman who was beat senseless if she respected her husband.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

You need your batteries changed, your beginning to sound like a broken record.

Marriage is a covenant that rightfully belongs to the church, the state should never have been involved in to begin with. You have shown on a number of subjects your complete lack of understanding on anything to do with the law. Divorce isn't about the marriage covenant, the state is involved for the purpose of what is to be done with the kids and the property.

If you recall there is a reason that God had laws for divorce, it was to protect those who were the most vulnerable. Even though divorce isn't God's plan he knew that those who could not protect themselves needed protection. But you would rather ask a woman who was beat senseless if she respected her husband.

LOL Wouldn't that just make the broken record play for longer?

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by jfrog

LOL Wouldn't that just make the broken record play for longer?

No, this is a special record player, it is incapable of moving on to the next groove on the record because the power supply is weak.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

No, this is a special record player, it is incapable of moving on to the next groove on the record because the power supply is weak.

Can't we just throw it out the window instead of spending money on new batteries? jkjk

[Aquila]

How was marriage and divorce handled prior to marriage licenses and government's involvement?