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Old 07-29-2009, 01:43 PM
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Re: National Review Online Claims Obama US Born

Now I'm confused. Is everyone born in the US whose parents were born in England not full American citizens?
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Old 07-29-2009, 01:43 PM
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Re: National Review Online Claims Obama US Born

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Sounds like desperation to me, coadie. All your talking won't change the facts.
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Twisp tell us the time and place including confirmed dates when obama born to a British citizen in good standing renunced his citizenship.

Try to be accurate and truthful

Explain why Obama's claim on fact cheks is wrong when obama's claim says citizenship went away by reason of turning the age of 21.



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Renunciation and Deprivation of citizenship.



Renunciation of citizenship by reason of dual citizenship or nationality.

19.—(1) If any citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies of full age and capacity who is also—



(a) a citizen of any country mentioned in subsection (3) of section one of this Act or of Eire; or



(b) a national of a foreign country,



makes a declaration in the prescribed manner of renunciation of citizenship of the United Kingdom and Colonies, the Secretary of State shall cause the declaration to be registered; and, upon the registration, that person shall cease to be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies:



Provided that the Secretary of State may withhold registration of any such declaration if it is made during any war in which His Majesty may be engaged by a person who is a national of a foreign country.
Truth points. Obama was born to a British citizen
He was a citizen at birth by reason of his father

He was born under British law.
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Re: National Review Online Claims Obama US Born

A Republican senator called coadie a liar on national TV last night.









































































Well not by name but said the nuts who continued this nutty claim were liars if they continued to repeat what we in the senate know is a lie.
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Old 07-29-2009, 02:02 PM
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Now I'm confused. Is everyone born in the US whose parents were born in England not full American citizens?
According to the British act under their sovereignty. 1948

apparently citizenship goes from the parents (father) down to the children at birth and not from the ground up. Saves a lot of confusion for military and touristas.

Wouldn't it be slick to come to America by getting pregnant and flying here then going into labor? Free healthcare and goodies.
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Old 07-29-2009, 02:55 PM
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A Republican senator called coadie a liar on national TV last night.



























Well not by name but said the nuts who continued this nutty claim were liars if they continued to repeat what we in the senate know is a lie.
And there you have it folks. The benchmark of integrity and honestly and all knowledgable of what is and what is not, the heighth of all honesty and transparency, not just any senetor but a Republican senator. And we all know, when one of them speak, it is the truth and all those that may disagree are nuts.
Oh, I get it.
The fact that a GOP senator can decide for all Americans what is and is not truth is as comical as stating a Dem. senator too knows what is truth.
These peple up there would not know truth if it slapped them upside the head.
Which is why it seems it would be the proper thing would be just to produce the silly little long form birth certificate and put all these nut jobs in their place. Once again, too simple. It is far easier just to rail against those that question than to prove it.
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Old 07-29-2009, 04:02 PM
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And there you have it folks. The benchmark of integrity and honestly and all knowledgable of what is and what is not, the heighth of all honesty and transparency, not just any senetor but a Republican senator. And we all know, when one of them speak, it is the truth and all those that may disagree are nuts.
Oh, I get it.
The fact that a GOP senator can decide for all Americans what is and is not truth is as comical as stating a Dem. senator too knows what is truth.
These peple up there would not know truth if it slapped them upside the head.
Which is why it seems it would be the proper thing would be just to produce the silly little long form birth certificate and put all these nut jobs in their place. Once again, too simple. It is far easier just to rail against those that question than to prove it.
Bowas, first of all welcome to the political side of the forum. It's good to see new people that I haven't seen post much here.

The fact is that even if the officials in Hawaii, including the Republican Gov., could break the law and go the vault, and pull out BO's long form birth certficate and put it on public display in Honolulu for a year and people like coadie would say that too was fake. They'd say it's a fake copy or some sort of junk like that.

They will never admit that this all junk that has no truth or validity whatsoever.

Anyone with a shred of common sense realizes that a Republican Gov. has no reason to lie and say that she has personally seen the original on file in Hawaii and is convinced it's legit.

I'll continue to wait with baited breath for coadie's court hearing on the matter. With all of his legal expertise and mountains of proof it's sure to be a "slam dunk" case much like the WMD's in Iraq was.
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Old 07-29-2009, 06:01 PM
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Bowas, first of all welcome to the political side of the forum. It's good to see new people that I haven't seen post much here.

The fact is that even if the officials in Hawaii, including the Republican Gov., could break the law and go the vault, and pull out BO's long form birth certficate and put it on public display in Honolulu for a year and people like coadie would say that too was fake. They'd say it's a fake copy or some sort of junk like that.

They will never admit that this all junk that has no truth or validity whatsoever.

Anyone with a shred of common sense realizes that a Republican Gov. has no reason to lie and say that she has personally seen the original on file in Hawaii and is convinced it's legit.

I'll continue to wait with baited breath for coadie's court hearing on the matter. With all of his legal expertise and mountains of proof it's sure to be a "slam dunk" case much like the WMD's in Iraq was.
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Concerning breaking the law and displaying the oringinal long form birth certificate is not what is being discussed. IF Obama himself were to want to put this entire issue to rest once and for all, he has within his power to make it public.
Regardless if a Rep. governor or anyone else so states they have in fact seen it, does not in itself prove anything. It is merely "hearsay" They are not under oath in any way so it means nothing. I do not know if this Rep. gov. is even qualified to make an authoritive proclomation as to the validity of it anyway. But that notwithstanding, is still just "hearsay"
And yes, I am sure even if they were to produce one it would be discredited as not being authentic and a forgery (why else would they have taken so long to "produce" one? )
Albeit, the reluctance to show it in a timely manner, obviously will keep the suspicious people suspicious.
We can then focus on who sponsered him to go to Indosia for schooling when Americans citizens were forbidden from doing so, and who sponsered him (on a foriegn student scholarship program) to attend our American University.
Oh, it won't end, but, Hey neither did the attacks and innuendos on previous presidents. (R or D) It's what we, as Americans do as one of our favorite past times and national sport.
Real or fake, produce it so we can go on to the next issue. We should not stop now.
As far as WMD's, the dirty little secret is Iraq really did have them and we know it. Why you ask? Because we sold it to them and had the reciepts to prove it, as they were our friends when they was fighting Iran. The real question is not IF they had them, but where are they? Most of them are still out there as some has been found, but that was not reported widely because the wrong president was in power. Just like now the Iraq war is no good (Bush's. war) but the war in Afganistan is good (Obama's war).

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Old 07-29-2009, 11:14 PM
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Here is a quote taken from United States Statutes.
Is this still the law, or how does this apply to Obama?

FIRST CONGRESS.  Sess. II. Ch. 4.  1790.

ceedings thereon; and thereupon such person shall be considered as a citizen of the United States. And the children of such persons so naturalized, dwelling within the United States, being under the age of twenty-one years at the time of such naturalization,Their children residing here, deemed citizens. shall also be considered as citizens of the United States. And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea,Also, children of citizens born beyond sea, &c. or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States:Exceptions. Provided also, That no person heretofore proscribed by any state, shall be admitted a citizen as aforesaid, except by an act of the legislature of the state in which such person was proscribed.[1]

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Re: National Review Online Claims Obama US Born

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Twisp tell us the time and place including confirmed dates when obama born to a British citizen in good standing renunced his citizenship.
We wait patiently for this

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Try to be accurate and truthful

Explain why Obama's claim on fact cheks is wrong when obama's claim says citizenship went away by reason of turning the age of 21.
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Thank you for your warm welcome.
Concerning breaking the law and displaying the oringinal long form birth certificate is not what is being discussed. IF Obama himself were to want to put this entire issue to rest once and for all, he has within his power to make it public.
Regardless if a Rep. governor or anyone else so states they have in fact seen it, does not in itself prove anything. It is merely "hearsay" They are not under oath in any way so it means nothing. I do not know if this Rep. gov. is even qualified to make an authoritive proclomation as to the validity of it anyway. But that notwithstanding, is still just "hearsay"
And yes, I am sure even if they were to produce one it would be discredited as not being authentic and a forgery (why else would they have taken so long to "produce" one? )
Albeit, the reluctance to show it in a timely manner, obviously will keep the suspicious people suspicious.
We can then focus on who sponsered him to go to Indosia for schooling when Americans citizens were forbidden from doing so, and who sponsered him (on a foriegn student scholarship program) to attend our American University.
Oh, it won't end, but, Hey neither did the attacks and innuendos on previous presidents. (R or D) It's what we, as Americans do as one of our favorite past times and national sport.
Real or fake, produce it so we can go on to the next issue. We should not stop now.
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As far as WMD's, the dirty little secret is Iraq really did have them and we know it. Why you ask? Because we sold it to them and had the reciepts to prove it, as they were our friends when they was fighting Iran. The real question is not IF they had them, but where are they? Most of them are still out there as some has been found, but that was not reported widely because the wrong president was in power. Just like now the Iraq war is no good (Bush's. war) but the war in Afganistan is good (Obama's war
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You really don't need to react to the false WMD claims

They are done by left wing wackos to justify abortion activism, The Democrats are killing little babies like Hered killed those under 2 boys. That prevents to some extent another baby George bush III from being born.
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