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Old 07-01-2009, 07:17 PM
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Re: Will this bring Obama down?

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Are you going to hold that race card or are you going to play it?

Come on.......there are many folks who do not want to see our country go the way of socialism and disagree with the President without it having to do with his race.......which I would guess should be obvious by now that it's mixed. Nothing wrong with that. But it gets old when someone who does not agree with the President's policies is automatically called a racist. I personal don't care what a person's skin color is but I do care about the content of their character.
What you typed above is the truth for you and I don't doubt it to be the truith for most on AFF who don't agree with the President every time he breathes....



But there is a segment of our population for which what I implied is true and they are vocal.

I hereby now do throw down, "THE RACE CARD"




It gets old reading and hearing unintelligent criticism of our President.


It gets older seeing the folks who are intelligent spewing their opinions in a way that foments opinions based on emotions and ignorance instead of thoughtful discussion.



What some folks on the right do is not any different than what farakhan did for YEARS spreading feelings of hatred, "we are the only ones who see the light", and victimhood mentality.

At least farakhan pointed his feelings of hatred openly and clearly to a broad group of people.

Hateful and ignorant of him, YES! But he is very educated, very intelligent and very open-- these are the nicest things you'll ever hear me say about this creep!


But many on the right hateful and ignorant, educated, intelligent and NOT OPEN about the real reasons for their discontent.




In typing this, I now understand how Sam and others have said about being afraid to criticize BHO for fear of being called racist. It's not my intent to call anyone racist for criticising the President.

I have strongly criticized our President!

But that fear of being called racist is unnecessary, should be non-existent, when your opinions are based on truth.


A lot of what I read and hear is NOT based on truth.
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:29 PM
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Re: Will this bring Obama down?

It claims two other news agencies reported it. It would then not be to hard to find this news item on those website archives
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:31 PM
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What you typed above is the truth for you and I don't doubt it to be the truith for most on AFF who don't agree with the President every time he breathes....



But there is a segment of our population for which what I implied is true and they are vocal.

I hereby now do throw down, "THE RACE CARD"




It gets old reading and hearing unintelligent criticism of our President.


It gets older seeing the folks who are intelligent spewing their opinions in a way that foments opinions based on emotions and ignorance instead of thoughtful discussion.



What some folks on the right do is not any different than what farakhan did for YEARS spreading feelings of hatred, "we are the only ones who see the light", and victimhood mentality.

At least farakhan pointed his feelings of hatred openly and clearly to a broad group of people.

Hateful and ignorant of him, YES! But he is very educated, very intelligent and very open-- these are the nicest things you'll ever hear me say about this creep!


But many on the right hateful and ignorant, educated, intelligent and NOT OPEN about the real reasons for their discontent.




In typing this, I now understand how Sam and others have said about being afraid to criticize BHO for fear of being called racist. It's not my intent to call anyone racist for criticising the President.

I have strongly criticized our President!

But that fear of being called racist is unnecessary, should be non-existent, when your opinions are based on truth.


A lot of what I read and hear is NOT based on truth.
with the exception of the race card, everything you posted is true of the Liberals and has been true of then during Republican administrations. I say they are reaping the fruits of their own labor
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:55 PM
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with the exception of the race card, everything you posted is true of the Liberals and has been true of then during Republican administrations. I say they are reaping the fruits of their own labor

I disagree.

I don't think it ever came across anyone's mind that Bush Jr, Bush Sr.'s life would be in danger.


Of our recent President's two people come to mind who's lives were/are in danger due to the nut jobs of our society:

Reagan

and

Obama.


And I may be wrong here, with both of these guys, the public sentiments were either love 'em or hate 'em-- not really any room for middle ground.
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:27 PM
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Hey rev George bush created the road, then sent American down it. I didn't hear you then.
Created what road?

I guess you approved of Bill Clinton as well?
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I disagree.

I don't think it ever came across anyone's mind that Bush Jr, Bush Sr.'s life would be in danger.


Of our recent President's two people come to mind who's lives were/are in danger due to the nut jobs of our society:

Reagan

and

Obama.


And I may be wrong here, with both of these guys, the public sentiments were either love 'em or hate 'em-- not really any room for middle ground.
Every presidents' life is in danger.
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What you typed above is the truth for you and I don't doubt it to be the truith for most on AFF who don't agree with the President every time he breathes....



But there is a segment of our population for which what I implied is true and they are vocal.

I hereby now do throw down, "THE RACE CARD"




It gets old reading and hearing unintelligent criticism of our President.


It gets older seeing the folks who are intelligent spewing their opinions in a way that foments opinions based on emotions and ignorance instead of thoughtful discussion.



What some folks on the right do is not any different than what farakhan did for YEARS spreading feelings of hatred, "we are the only ones who see the light", and victimhood mentality.

At least farakhan pointed his feelings of hatred openly and clearly to a broad group of people.

Hateful and ignorant of him, YES! But he is very educated, very intelligent and very open-- these are the nicest things you'll ever hear me say about this creep!


But many on the right hateful and ignorant, educated, intelligent and NOT OPEN about the real reasons for their discontent.




In typing this, I now understand how Sam and others have said about being afraid to criticize BHO for fear of being called racist. It's not my intent to call anyone racist for criticising the President.

I have strongly criticized our President!

But that fear of being called racist is unnecessary, should be non-existent, when your opinions are based on truth.


A lot of what I read and hear is NOT based on truth.
I get tired of the race card being thrown down in regards to BO. He is as much white as he is black.

I strongly disagreed with Bill Clinton and he is white.

I originally was a democrat and changed to over to the Republicans when the dems lost their original stand for moral issues.

I am losing confidence in the republican party as well and may go independent or libertarian if the party doesn't get it together.

Not sure what you are referring to as unintelligent criticism of the president???
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Created what road?



The road to socialism.

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I guess you approved of Bill Clinton as well?
Yes I approved of the way he governed he left the shrub (bush) a surplus and the shrub and his repugnant senators and congressmen wasted it with a war started by lies. Times were good; work was plentiful when Bill had the reigns.

I did not approve of his womanizing and his telling lies about it.
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I disagree.

I don't think it ever came across anyone's mind that Bush Jr, Bush Sr.'s life would be in danger.


Of our recent President's two people come to mind who's lives were/are in danger due to the nut jobs of our society:

Reagan

and

Obama.


And I may be wrong here, with both of these guys, the public sentiments were either love 'em or hate 'em-- not really any room for middle ground.
Im not talking about anyone being in danger. Im talking about the love/hate attitudes. The Libs were daily barraging Bush and other Republicans with hate
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:35 AM
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The road to socialism.



Yes I approved of the way he governed he left the shrub (bush) a surplus and the shrub and his repugnant senators and congressmen wasted it with a war started by lies. Times were good; work was plentiful when Bill had the reigns.

I did not approve of his womanizing and his telling lies about it.
Be sure to tell the families of 9/11 that they were killed by lies, it didn't really happen!

Clinton inherited a good economy.
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