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06-18-2009, 10:22 AM
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Re: The "DAVID DANCED WHILE NAKED" error
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
But why did Adam and Eve need clothes if they were the only people in the world?
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They were ashamed, probably before God. Notice they only hid when God came, and that was with fig leaves on. They remained together before God came, unashamed with one another, but Adam still felt naked when God came. I think it was actually more of an inward nakedness that he tried to remedy outwardly, like so many do today. He did not know how to react to his inward state.
Notice Adam said he was stil naked after sewing fig leaves upon himself.
Genesis 3:7-10 KJV And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden. (9) And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? (10) And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.
Why would he say he was still naked since he covered himself with fig leaves? And why not run when he saw Eve, if he was ashamed of nakedness in front of her? But they were together after having sewed fig leaves together for aprons, and never hid and still felt naked until God came. This means it was not their physical nakedness that was the issue. THEY THOUGHT that was it, but felt the same thing after being clothed by themselves when God came. This proves, it seems, it was shame of their inward nakedness and sin of their hearts.
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06-18-2009, 02:21 PM
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Re: The "DAVID DANCED WHILE NAKED" error
have to say i agree with mfblume interp, i have never thought it made sense for this to be so immodest, dt
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10-14-2011, 04:33 PM
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Re: The "DAVID DANCED WHILE NAKED" error
didn't God cover them with animal skins?
was the animal blood that was slain so they could be covered symbolic?
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10-14-2011, 09:48 PM
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Re: The "DAVID DANCED WHILE NAKED" error
1Ch 15:27 David was clothed with a robe of fine linen, as also were all the Levites who were carrying the ark, and the singers and Chenaniah the leader of the music of the singers. And David wore a linen ephod.
Probably the unclothed part is these priestly garments were light, like dresses. David was dacing and it was probalby flapping upwards.
Though the word used there could simply mean to reveal
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10-15-2011, 05:51 AM
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Re: The "DAVID DANCED WHILE NAKED" error
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Here's a couple more naked guys
Mark 14:51
51 And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold on him: KJV
John 21:7
7 Therefore that disciple whom Jesus loved saith unto Peter, It is the Lord. Now when Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he girt his fisher's coat unto him, ( for he was naked,) and did cast himself into the sea. KJV
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How 'bout the prophet Isaiah, whom the LORD commanded that he walk naked and barefoot for three years?
Isaiah 20:2-4
At the same time spake the LORD by Isaiah the son of Amoz, saying, Go and loose the sackcloth from off thy loins, and put off thy shoe from thy foot. And he did so, walking naked and barefoot.
And the LORD said, Like as my servant Isaiah hath walked naked and barefoot three years for a sign and wonder upon Egypt and upon Ethiopia;
So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt.
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10-15-2011, 09:43 AM
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Re: The "DAVID DANCED WHILE NAKED" error
Thanks for this very interesting thread mfblume!
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10-15-2011, 10:40 AM
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Re: The "DAVID DANCED WHILE NAKED" error
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didn't God cover them with animal skins?
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Yes, they were indeed physically naked, but they were naked beforehand and did not know it. Thought nothing of it. The stripping away of the inward spiritual man caused them to try to remedy it by outward clothing.
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was the animal blood that was slain so they could be covered symbolic?
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It was actual animal blood, but very symbolic of the cross.
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10-15-2011, 10:45 AM
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Re: The "DAVID DANCED WHILE NAKED" error
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Thanks for this very interesting thread mfblume!
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10-15-2011, 10:47 AM
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Re: The "DAVID DANCED WHILE NAKED" error
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1Ch 15:27 David was clothed with a robe of fine linen, as also were all the Levites who were carrying the ark, and the singers and Chenaniah the leader of the music of the singers. And David wore a linen ephod.
Probably the unclothed part is these priestly garments were light, like dresses. David was dacing and it was probalby flapping upwards.
Though the word used there could simply mean to reveal
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Where does the idea come from that it was revealing, though? I can only see Michal's words as a basis for that since she said he was uncovered.
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10-15-2011, 10:58 AM
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Re: The "DAVID DANCED WHILE NAKED" error
Brother Blume always provokes us to thought.
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