Boy will be suspended if he goes to prom.

[Margies3]

If this was a public school, paid for by public funds, then maybe the argument could be made that the school has no right to tell a parent how to raise their own child. But it is not a public school. The parents chose this school. I think that puts a whole different spin on the matter.

on the other hand, my son goes to a public school. And if you want to play any sports at all, you agree to abide by the rules which include no drinking of any kind anywhere, absolutely no drugs at any time or any place and having a decent haircut. We had some boys a few months ago who went to a party, got drunk, were videotaped and that video was put on YouTube. Ooops! Guess what - they were suspended from playing sports for a long while. They knew the rule. They chose to disobey it. So they paid the price.

Could the argument be made that the same principle applies here? In my opinion, I think it does.

Does that mean I agree with their ridiculous rule? in NO WAY. But we're back to - the parents CHOSE this school and with this school comes these rules.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

....and I actually side with the school on this one. No matter how silly a rule (or standard) may be, if you agree to it as a condition of joining before hand, they have every right to expect you to stand by it.

I agree with you. However, the principal should not have signed a permission slip and then said, "If you go, we'll expel you." What's the point of the permission slip, if not to give unfettered permission?

Overall, though, I agree--private schools have the right to make rules, and when you enroll, you agree to abide by those rules. Or accept the consequences.

The only snag is the principal's written consent, even if it was verbally withdrawn. The way it was presented, it almost sounds like he and the student might have a "history", which could either put more blame in the student's lap, or the principal could be deliberately putting the student in a hard spot.

As a parent, if a teacher (or principal) gave my child written permission to do something, and then said, "But if you do that[thing I gave you permission to do], I'll expel you", I would be pretty mad about it.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I agree with you. However, the principal should not have signed a permission slip and then said, "If you go, we'll expel you." What's the point of the permission slip, if not to give unfettered permission?

Overall, though, I agree--private schools have the right to make rules, and when you enroll, you agree to abide by those rules. Or accept the consequences.

The only snag is the principal's written consent, even if it was verbally withdrawn. The way it was presented, it almost sounds like he and the student might have a "history", which could either put more blame in the student's lap, or the principal could be deliberately putting the student in a hard spot.

As a parent, if a teacher (or principal) gave my child written permission to do something, and then said, "But if you do that[thing I gave you permission to do], I'll expel you", I would be pretty mad about it.

I was agreeing with the school on principle, but this whole permission form which was signed by the principle adds a new wrinkle to THIS specific case.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I was agreeing with the school on principle, but this whole permission form which was signed by the principle adds a new wrinkle to THIS specific case.

Got it! I think we're saying the same thing.

IMO, the school should let the student have his cake and eat it, too--simply because the principal gave him written permission to go. No matter what was discussed afterward.

And then the principal should be called on the carpet by the school board for causing the contradiction in the first place.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I was agreeing with the school on principle, but this whole permission form which was signed by the principle adds a new wrinkle to THIS specific case.

You were agreeing with the school principal? Oh wait. Never mind!

Anyways. I think it was idiotic for the principle to sign the consent form

[Crossfire]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

And what about those religious leaders in Jesus's day! Man of man, "we" can't hold a candle to their "standards"! How sad is that!

He who hates standards, lives with a chaotic heart. The truth is, we have standards in everything we do. I would rather have something that God has spoken in His Word as a means of a fence spiritually to help me stay in, given by His amazing grace, than to live a life one foot in Hell and the other in the church door. It just is not worth seeing how far is too far before I fall.

[jaxfam6]

Speaking of the permission slip, I thought the article, if not this one then one that I read, stated that the principal had signed but had warned that there may be consequences. If that is the case, he knew up front that he may pay a price for going to the dance.

[Margies3]

Originally Posted by jaxfam6

Speaking of the permission slip, I thought the article, if not this one then one that I read, stated that the principal had signed but had warned that there may be consequences. If that is the case, he knew up front that he may pay a price for going to the dance.

Then why would the principal sign the permission slip? That's like saying to a kid, "If you go and play in the busy street, there will be a price to pay for your fun. Now go and play in the street." How stupid is that?? If you raising a child, then "NO" means "NO". To say "No" and then sign a permission slip giving permission to go and then turn right around and say "No" again........... well, even I find that to be a confusing message. How unfair is that to do that to a kid? IF he did sign the slip under those conditions, and if I was on their board, that man would be in jeapordy of losing his job. At the very least, he would be severely reprimanded.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Crossfire

He who hates standards, lives with a chaotic heart. The truth is, we have standards in everything we do. I would rather have something that God has spoken in His Word as a means of a fence spiritually to help me stay in, given by His amazing grace, than to live a life one foot in Hell and the other in the church door. It just is not worth seeing how far is too far before I fall.

Who's standards?

A very simple question..........

[jaxfam6]

Originally Posted by Margies3

Then why would the principal sign the permission slip? That's like saying to a kid, "If you go and play in the busy street, there will be a price to pay for your fun. Now go and play in the street." How stupid is that?? If you raising a child, then "NO" means "NO". To say "No" and then sign a permission slip giving permission to go and then turn right around and say "No" again........... well, even I find that to be a confusing message. How unfair is that to do that to a kid? IF he did sign the slip under those conditions, and if I was on their board, that man would be in jeapordy of losing his job. At the very least, he would be severely reprimanded.

This is how I see it. The Principal had no way of stopping the boy from going. The boy wanted to go and ask for the permission slip to be signed because he had to have it to be able to attend. The Principal simply signed it with a warning saying, okay here you go, I have signed but you realize this is going to come at a price. You can use it and go or think it over and decide that you don't want to pay the price that is going to be charged. Who was the Principal to tell him he could not go? That was not the Principals job. He can not dictate what the boy does just inforce the rules of the school he is in charge of.