We call it abortion here.
The liberals have their ethnic cleansing called abortion.
If you favor Obama you favor abortion. King saul was sent to erase the amelekites. Kinda like we had to deal with saddam hussein. If GHW had done it the first time, we wouldn't have had to go in there and finish it later.
Yawn. It's so predictable that you all will exploit the abortion issue when in fact your party hasn't made abortion illegal.
Coadie the Republican party has been in power 20 of the last 29 years and held Congressional control from 1992 until 2006. Pray tell what you or your party did to over turn Roe v. Wade?? 7 or the 9 Supreme Court Justices sitting on the bench, including the Chief Justice, were appointed by your Republican Presidents. Makes one go hmmmm, huh?
Abortion is just as legal as it is when Ronald Reagan was elected and yet you always bring up the abortion issue as if Republicans are actually interested in overturning Roe v. Wade.
By your logic, every person voting Republican has done just as much to keep abortion legal as any Democrat. Shame on you for trying to lay the blame on liberal Democrats when Conservative Republicans haven't brought an end to abortion.
As I've said over and over, the only thing that will stop abortion in this country is when ministers across the country, under the annointing of the Holy Ghost, preach abortion as sinful and abomination in a Holy God's eyes, and women are convicted of it by the Holy Ghost. That's when abortions will stop in this country. I can assure you it won't come from Washington D.C.
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I think it is naive and wrong to suggest that When nobody else would stand up, but everybody else wanted America to stand up, that our standing up was somehow a mistake.
Im not buying that Mike. Not in the least. We could have fed Europe to the russians and just held our collective noses.
we could have fought the Japanese off and left Europe and Russia for the Germans.
we could have fought off the germans and left Europe in ruins.
we could have done all that and more.
Bill Clinton could have refused to save the Bosnians from the Serbs.
lets stop wringing our hands and be honest with the rest of the world. until someone stepps up and makes their own omlets, Im not interested in hearing them complain about how we break the eggs!
I agree with all of that Ferd, but do you think American foreign policy in the middle East is without blemish? Do you think it was right for us to supply the weapons that Saddam Hussein used against Iran in the 80's? We supplied those weapons that he in turned used on the Kurds in Northern Iraq?
Was it right to kill 100,000 civilians in the last 6 years in Iraq and make way for a new chapter of Al-qaeda Iraq?
100,000, Ferd? We were all outraged and rightly went to war in Afghanistan over 3,000 killed on 9/11. A simple apology for our screw ups is totally irrational and out of the question?
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Hold it just a minute, there with your gargantuan leaps in logic Sounworthy. I never said I'm not "happy with" my country. I love my country as much as you do and how dare you or anyone else question that. Just because I identify and recognize the mistakes we've made doesn't mean I love this country any less than you. I know Neo-Con Republicans have made a living the last 9 years questioning the patriotism of people who disagree with your flawed ideas, but I reject that outright.
I'm more than a little tired of seeing blustering people like you up in arms over the fact that a U.S. President dared to admit our mistakes and missteps and offer an apology in a part of the world that we've helped to make a huge mess of the past 6 years and even farther back than that.
You're the Dick Cheney, GWB brand of bravado cowboys who think this country should be able to throw our weight around in whatever regions of the world we want, kill a 100,000 INNOCENT civilians, and never expect any consequences or bad will from people in that region. You're type of ideology is why America's reputation is at it's lowest in decades.
America's people are good, just and generous. We're the largest charitable givers ever on the face of planet earth. God has blessed us and will continue too, I believe because of that. I pray that with God's help we remain the best Democracy ever on the planet.
However, too act holier than thou and revise history to make it seem that American foreign policy and our government hasn't made vast mistakes is naive and wrong.
More psychobabble Mike.
When liberals define innocent, it seems they push their lack of sound reasoning.
No the democrats are not patriotic. Some even battled the surge. Even stutter mouth Barry Hussein admits it worked. You need to do some readin Mike. Get an education. Saddam Hussein was given a deadline. Hussein was given a demand to allow inspectors. did you for get? He mad a choice. If you want to twist the facts and his bad choice as our fault, you must have impaired reasoning.
The Amelekites attacked israel from the rear and they were defenseless. God had king Saul destroy them.
Having referred to God's word. If a king makes a bad move it is he that brings danger to his people. Same with Hitler.
When a Democrat starts talking Innocent, are unborn babies innocent?
I agree with all of that Ferd, but do you think American foreign policy in the middle East is without blemish? Do you think it was right for us to supply the weapons that Saddam Hussein used against Iran in the 80's? We supplied those weapons that he in turned used on the Kurds in Northern Iraq?
Was it right to kill 100,000 civilians in the last 6 years in Iraq and make way for a new chapter of Al-qaeda Iraq?
100,000, Ferd? We were all outraged and rightly went to war in Afghanistan over 3,000 killed on 9/11. A simple apology for our screw ups is totally irrational and out of the question?
Abortion. How do you defend slaughter of the innocent?
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You're the Dick Cheney, GWB brand of bravado cowboys who think this country should be able to throw our weight around in whatever regions of the world we want, kill a 100,000 INNOCENT civilians, and never expect any consequences or bad will from people in that region.
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How many innocent civilians did Saddam Hussein kill?
How many more innocent civilians might he have killed if we hadn't taken him out when we did?
How many innocent civilians are alive today because Saddam was taken out?
I happen to believe that we did the world and humanity a favor when we took Saddam out.
I also believe there are some more that ought to be taken out, but I better not mention any names.
Yawn. It's so predictable that you all will exploit the abortion issue when in fact your party hasn't made abortion illegal.
Coadie the Republican party has been in power 20 of the last 29 years and held Congressional control from 1992 until 2006. Pray tell what you or your party did to over turn Roe v. Wade?? 7 or the 9 Supreme Court Justices sitting on the bench, including the Chief Justice, were appointed by your Republican Presidents. Makes one go hmmmm, huh?
Abortion is just as legal as it is when Ronald Reagan was elected and yet you always bring up the abortion issue as if Republicans are actually interested in overturning Roe v. Wade.
By your logic, every person voting Republican has done just as much to keep abortion legal as any Democrat. Shame on you for trying to lay the blame on liberal Democrats when Conservative Republicans haven't brought an end to abortion.
As I've said over and over, the only thing that will stop abortion in this country is when ministers across the country, under the annointing of the Holy Ghost, preach abortion as sinful and abomination in a Holy God's eyes, and women are convicted of it by the Holy Ghost. That's when abortions will stop in this country. I can assure you it won't come from Washington D.C.
Your lack of education is showing.
You voted for abortion.
The abortion case is a supreme court case. it is their ruling. Obviously your pal Hussein obama knows that only electing pro life or anti life justices can change the balance of vote in the court.
Obviously people keep voting for the planned parenthood party and defend their support of abortion.
The chavinism is why the leftists were so incredibly afraid of Gov Palin. look at obama, he can't appoint over 25% women. Even his wife can't make him.
For a psychologist like my self, you are easy to read. You are partitioning and pulling out 4 heavy duty freudian defense mechanisms.
I agree with all of that Ferd, but do you think American foreign policy in the middle East is without blemish? Do you think it was right for us to supply the weapons that Saddam Hussein used against Iran in the 80's? We supplied those weapons that he in turned used on the Kurds in Northern Iraq?
Was it right to kill 100,000 civilians in the last 6 years in Iraq and make way for a new chapter of Al-qaeda Iraq?
100,000, Ferd? We were all outraged and rightly went to war in Afghanistan over 3,000 killed on 9/11. A simple apology for our screw ups is totally irrational and out of the question?
sorry bro. first of all that 100k number I believe is vastly over stated. and you are talking about a country that lost many times that number under their own leadership.
As for the rest of the middle east, someone point to something that has NOT been broken in that killing field?
how easily you forget the cold war Mike. Its a nasty mess and the cold war was an all too hot and brutal war for millions. but dont blame America alone. dont forget the Soviet Union. What ever we did was done to stop the USSR from taking over the entire planet.
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How many innocent civilians did Saddam Hussein kill?
How many more innocent civilians might he have killed if we hadn't taken him out when we did?
How many innocent civilians are alive today because Saddam was taken out?
I happen to believe that we did the world and humanity a favor when we took Saddam out.
I also believe there are some more that ought to be taken out, but I better not mention any names.
You are so correct. Just the steep drop in Husseins slaughter of his own citizens justifies external intervention.
The democrats are just self righteous rants. Even Sarkozy praised the same shortley after he took office. Had Hussein surrendered as he was given so many chances, it would have ended peacefully.
sorry bro. first of all that 100k number I believe is vastly over stated. and you are talking about a country that lost many times that number under their own leadership.
As for the rest of the middle east, someone point to something that has NOT been broken in that killing field?
how easily you forget the cold war Mike. Its a nasty mess and the cold war was an all too hot and brutal war for millions. but dont blame America alone. dont forget the Soviet Union. What ever we did was done to stop the USSR from taking over the entire planet.
An estimated 1.5 million Armenians were victims of planned killings by the Ottoman Turks as the empire was dissolving during World War I, an episode historians have concluded was a genocide. But Turkey and some of its supporters contend that the deaths resulted from civil war and unrest and that their numbers were exaggerated.
American presidents have long sought to avoid calling the killings a genocide, fearing repercussions from a NATO ally that is acutely sensitive to the charge. In 2007, the Bush administration argued for a delay in a congressional genocide resolution, saying that Turkish assistance was needed for the safety of U.S. troops in Iraq.
The abortion case is a supreme court case. it is their ruling. Obviously your pal Hussein obama knows that only electing pro life or anti life justices can change the balance of vote in the court.
Obviously people keep voting for the planned parenthood party and defend their support of abortion.
The chavinism is why the leftists were so incredibly afraid of Gov Palin. look at obama, he can't appoint over 25% women. Even his wife can't make him.
For a psychologist like my self, you are easy to read. You are partitioning and pulling out 4 heavy duty freudian defense mechanisms.
You can fool yourself but you can't fool me.
My intro to Psych class at the U of A taught me that you're condescending tone shows your own insecurity issues, but that aside, you've done a poor job of side stepping the facts brother.
Once again you ignore the fact that 7 of the 9, count them, were appointed by Presidents YOUR party nominated and elected and yet abortion continues? Can it be any more obvious that YOUR party(my old party) has used you as an issue voter and done little to actually end abortion?
As long as folks like you continue to support and enable the Republican party every 4 years and allow it's members and court appointees to not produce ACTUAL results, Roe v. Wade stands no chance of being overturned.
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