Obama's SS: Step One - Page 4

Aquila · #31 02-08-2009, 02:01 PM

Scotty, I think you're just overreacting.

Jermyn Davidson · #32 02-08-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by scotty

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Well I disagree with you.

In fact, most conservative-minded people I know would disagree with you as well.

If everyone served our country in some way, I think there would be much less disrespect for America, our laws and way of life, by our own citizens.

SDG · #33 02-08-2009, 02:10 PM

Scotty ... the only proper and reasonable response to this ... is ...

join the militia movement ...

TJJJ · #34 02-08-2009, 02:19 PM

What gets me is this "People of Color issue!"

We are all people of Color!

When did white quit being a color?

TJJJ · #35 02-08-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Scotty ... the only proper and reasonable response to this ... is ...

join the militia movement ...

Dan, I see you, I see you............. second row back, third from the right!

Seriously, what tree did they fall from?

SDG · #36 02-08-2009, 02:22 PM

Background on the SS -
Schutzstaffel

The SS was formed in 1925 as a personal guard unit for Nazi leader Adolf Hitler ("Die Schutz-Staffel der NSDAP" [Shield Squadron of the NSDAP]). Under the leadership of Heinrich Himmler between 1929 and 1945, the SS grew from a small paramilitary formation to become one of the largest and most powerful organizations in Nazi Germany. The Nazis regarded the SS as an elite unit, the party's "Praetorian Guard," with all SS personnel (originally) selected on the principles of racial purity and unconditional loyalty to the Nazi Party. In the early days of the SS, officer candidates had to prove German ancestry to 1750. They also were required to prove that they had no Jewish ancestors. Later, when the requirements of the war made it impossible to confirm the ancestry of officer candidates, the proof of ancestry regulation was dropped.

In contrast to the political wing of the SS, the black-uniformed Allgemeine-SS, the military wing, the Waffen-SS, evolved into a second German army aside the regular one, the Wehrmacht, operating in tandem with them. The Waffen-SS gained a reputation for barbarity; its units helped wipe out resistance in both the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and the Warsaw Uprising, and perpetrated the Malmedy massacre during the Battle of the Bulge in 1944.

The SS was distinguished from other branches of the German military, the National Socialist Party, and German state officials by its own rank structure, unit insignia, and uniforms. The all-black SS uniform was designed by SS-Oberführer Prof. Karl Diebitsch and Walter Heck (graphic designer) and made by Hugo Boss, some workers being prisoners of war forced into labor.[1] (The SS also developed its own field uniforms, including the first widespread use of camouflage.)

As the Nazi party monopolized political power in Germany, key government functions such as law enforcement were absorbed into the SS, while many SS organizations became the de facto government agencies. To maintain the political power of the Nazi party, the SS was given authority to establish and run the Sicherheitsdienst (SD), the security and intelligence service, and the Geheime Staatspolizei (Gestapo), the secret police, effectively putting the SS above the law.

Himmler, the leader of the SS, was the chief architect of the Final Solution. The SS Einsatzgruppen death squads, formed by Himmler, murdered many civilian non-combatants, mostly Jews, in the countries occupied by Germany during World War II. Himmler was responsible for establishing and operating concentration camps and extermination camps in which millions of inmates died of systematic mass gassing, inhumane treatment, overwork, malnutrition, or medical experiments. After the war, the judges of the Nuremberg Trials declared part of the SS, the SD, a criminal organization responsible for the implementation of racial policies of genocide and committing war crimes and crimes against humanity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS

scotty · #37 02-08-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Scotty ... the only proper and reasonable response to this ... is ...

join the militia movement ...

Are you serious ? Are accusing me of being racist ? You claim I am of the same beliefs as white surpremicy ? Do I have to get banned for telling you what I am really thinking of your ignorance right now ? Or has your wit simply lost its taste ?

TJJJ · #38 02-08-2009, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Background on the SS -
Schutzstaffel

The SS was formed in 1925 as a personal guard unit for Nazi leader Adolf Hitler ("Die Schutz-Staffel der NSDAP" [Shield Squadron of the NSDAP]). Under the leadership of Heinrich Himmler between 1929 and 1945, the SS grew from a small paramilitary formation to become one of the largest and most powerful organizations in Nazi Germany. The Nazis regarded the SS as an elite unit, the party's "Praetorian Guard," with all SS personnel (originally) selected on the principles of racial purity and unconditional loyalty to the Nazi Party. In the early days of the SS, officer candidates had to prove German ancestry to 1750. They also were required to prove that they had no Jewish ancestors. Later, when the requirements of the war made it impossible to confirm the ancestry of officer candidates, the proof of ancestry regulation was dropped.

In contrast to the political wing of the SS, the black-uniformed Allgemeine-SS, the military wing, the Waffen-SS, evolved into a second German army aside the regular one, the Wehrmacht, operating in tandem with them. The Waffen-SS gained a reputation for barbarity; its units helped wipe out resistance in both the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and the Warsaw Uprising, and perpetrated the Malmedy massacre during the Battle of the Bulge in 1944.

The SS was distinguished from other branches of the German military, the National Socialist Party, and German state officials by its own rank structure, unit insignia, and uniforms. The all-black SS uniform was designed by SS-Oberführer Prof. Karl Diebitsch and Walter Heck (graphic designer) and made by Hugo Boss, some workers being prisoners of war forced into labor.[1] (The SS also developed its own field uniforms, including the first widespread use of camouflage.)

As the Nazi party monopolized political power in Germany, key government functions such as law enforcement were absorbed into the SS, while many SS organizations became the de facto government agencies. To maintain the political power of the Nazi party, the SS was given authority to establish and run the Sicherheitsdienst (SD), the security and intelligence service, and the Geheime Staatspolizei (Gestapo), the secret police, effectively putting the SS above the law.

Himmler, the leader of the SS, was the chief architect of the Final Solution. The SS Einsatzgruppen death squads, formed by Himmler, murdered many civilian non-combatants, mostly Jews, in the countries occupied by Germany during World War II. Himmler was responsible for establishing and operating concentration camps and extermination camps in which millions of inmates died of systematic mass gassing, inhumane treatment, overwork, malnutrition, or medical experiments. After the war, the judges of the Nuremberg Trials declared part of the SS, the SD, a criminal organization responsible for the implementation of racial policies of genocide and committing war crimes and crimes against humanity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS

Dan, quit muddying the waters with technicalities!!!

SDG · #39 02-08-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by scotty

Are you serious ? Are accusing me of being racist ? You claim I am of the same beliefs as white surpremicy ? Do I have to get banned for telling you what I am really thinking of your ignorance right now ? Or has your wit simply lost its taste ?

Sir the militia movement is as old as the minutemen from the American Revolution ...

You have a constitutional right to join one ... and yes even form one

It's obvious you have a limited view of history and so discussing threads like Obama's SS: Step One ...

obviously seems to have no ... historical significance to you.

Sorry you equate these discussions to just race.

scotty · #40 02-08-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Well I disagree with you.

In fact, most conservative-minded people I know would disagree with you as well.

If everyone served our country in some way, I think there would be much less disrespect for America, our laws and way of life, by our own citizens.

Really ? Maybe you should start a poll. I would be very surprised if most would agree to the Federal Government making it mandatory for all citizens to serve. I could be wrong, but I would be very surprised.