Baptism in the Name of the.....

[tdc]

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

If your asking.. is being baptised in the titles the same as being baptised in the Name.. then the answer in no.

The Name is Jesus.. his titles are many. Repentance coupled with water baptism in Jesus name is the only way the blood cleanses us from sin and redeems are fallen nature.

IMO, I agree that baptism in 3 titles is not what the bible is commanding, but, is it an immediate salvation issue? (As we know, God expects obedience, and if He gave a command to be baptized, we had better follow it. However, I am referring to one being baptized in an "incorrect" format, according to our understanding of scripture.)

We know that one can receive the Holy Ghost prior to baptism, but what if a "new" Christian is truly seeking to follow God's word and thinks that they have fulfilled it by being baptized in the 3 titles, rather than the name of Jesus, after they have received the Holy Ghost? If a person can receive the Holy Ghost before they are baptized, are their sins not forgiven at that moment, or are their sins still present until they are baptized? Have they not fulfilled the command to be baptized to the best of their knowledge, or are they still lost in their sin even though they received the Holy Ghost?

I understand that in time, an honest heart will be guided into truth, but in the meantime, is that honest person's salvation in peril?

Ephesians 4:24 - And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

It would seem to me that according to this verse, once one has put on the new man (which I assume involves the infilling of the Holy Ghost) a person, at that very moment, is righteous and has true holiness. With this in mind, would it not be safe to assume that that person's sin is already washed away, prior to being baptized? (or is a person, even after the infilling of the Holy Ghost not yet considered a "new man" until they have been baptized?)

[KWSS1976]

In my opinion someone that is baptised in the 3 titles will not get the holyghost because usally a church that baptises this way i.e. some baptist churches do not teach one getting the holyghost with a physical outward sign...if ya know what I mean..

[jimmyrrs]

Originally Posted by MrsMcD

When people use the titles and then say "buried with Christ in Baptism," aren't they proclaiming baptism in Christ?

Many think so. Jesus never meant for Matthew 28:19, to become a formula for baptism. Jesus told them to go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Not in the title of.

I am a son, a husband, & a father, yet my name is Jimmy.

[jimmyrrs]

Originally Posted by KWSS1976

In my opinion someone that is baptised in the 3 titles will not get the holyghost because usally a church that baptises this way i.e. some baptist churches do not teach one getting the holyghost with a physical outward sign...if ya know what I mean..

I'm not so sure I agree with this.
Should such person come to the understanding of the fulness of the Godhead and repented and seek the Lord why would God not fill them with the HG. True afterward they should be baptized in the name of Jesus.

[KWSS1976]

All I am saying is churches that baptise in father,son and holyghost useally do not teach recieving the holyghost with the evidence... My mom I use her alot people will tell you around here cause she is baptist she will tell you in a heart beat she has the holyghost/holyspirit they see Acts diffrently so thats all I am saying..

[jimmyrrs]

Originally Posted by KWSS1976

All I am saying is churches that baptise in father,son and holyghost useally do not teach recieving the holyghost with the evidence... My mom I use her alot people will tell you around here cause she is baptist she will tell you in a heart beat she has the holyghost/holyspirit they see Acts diffrently so thats all I am saying..

Yes it is true what you are saying. Most churchs that baptize F, S, HG, do not teach tongues as evidence. I do know a few churchs that believe in the HG, except they say it is only a gift some people have in inter. tongues and they baptize in F, S, HG. Again they do not have the full understanding.

I'm sorry I misread your other post.

[iceniez]

THE NAME is the key.As apostolics we serve Jesus as our God that is his name. Islam serves their god allah and to them that is his name.I was a chatholic and was baptized in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy ghost,however when I belived the gospel I was rebaptized in Jesus name.Why? I saw that it was essential for salvation 1 Pt 3:21 so I was baptized.I will say as a Catholic I had no clue what the NAME of the Father was.I also believe most people [not all] do not know what the name of the Father is and as John 8:24 says will die in their sins. It is up to us to tell them who he is .Preach Jesus for who he is Fater ,Son and Holy Ghost.For me the understanding made all the differance in the world.

[*AQuietPlace*]

Hello! I'm new here, although I've been reading for a while.

I've been researching the baptism issue myself lately. I've been raised as a One God, Jesus Name Baptism, Pentecostal. But I've really been pondering this question lately..... if someone is NOT baptized according to the formula that we use, and the formula that we believe the Bible teaches - "In the name of Jesus" - WILL THEY GO TO HELL?

Thoughts?

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by KWSS1976

In my opinion someone that is baptised in the 3 titles will not get the holyghost because usally a church that baptises this way i.e. some baptist churches do not teach one getting the holyghost with a physical outward sign...if ya know what I mean..

I understand what you are saying, but in reality many, many people are filled with the Holy Ghost who believe in the Trinity. I personally know many.

We knew a family that was Trinity Holiness. They lived very, very conservatively standard wise, completely believed in receiving the Holy Ghost, speaking in tongues... but were trinitarian and baptized in the titles.

[KWSS1976]

A quiet place were they baptised in Jesus name at any point because the baptism in jesus name and recieving the holyghost are all in Acts I just don't see how they could of had the holyghost speak in tongues and not be baptised in Jesus name when the 2 are so close in scripture. Not saying you are wrong but just don't understand how this can happen. Because the baptism in jesus name comes before the holyghost in the bible Acts 2:38 so how can they believe in getting the holyghost speaking in tongues yet baptise with the titles. I myself really do not think it matters if you do it with the titles or in Jesus name after all both are in the bible.