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Old 12-04-2008, 02:27 PM
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Bet they didn't keep sending it to you for over a year. BTW, they were trying to solicit you with their "FREE" mag.

WPF won't give up on their solicitation.
Let them waste their money then! Their business...
I tend to think many of them just care about getting their voices heard. My take. Splits are splits. UPC was formed because of a split. That part we've got to let go.

CT did not continue for a year! Wish they had! Love reading attacks on us Oneness folks!
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Old 12-04-2008, 04:19 PM
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Re: Prosthelizing from new org

Time for a quick lesion in ethics and identifying what constitutes acceptable moral conduct?

I await instruction.
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Time for a quick lesion in ethics and identifying what constitutes acceptable moral conduct?

I await instruction.
You can usually start with "do unto others as you would have them do unto you", and not engage in anything that you know you would not want done in your assembly. That usually goes a long way.
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Old 12-04-2008, 04:45 PM
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You can usually start with "do unto others as you would have them do unto you", and not engage in anything that you know you would not want done in your assembly. That usually goes a long way.
Yep, that is an excellent place to start. Thanks.

Now, as we can see from this thread, there is some question as to how this approach is to be implemented. We seem to have a difference of opinion as to what this principle means and how it should be understood. Also, how the definitions of ethics and moral conduct work together in establishing the foundations of the value judgments rendered so far on this thread.

Again, thanks for a wonderful start - Now, on to the next step in the lesson.

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Yep, that is an excellent place to start. Thanks.

Now, as we can see from this thread, there is some question as to how this approach is to be implemented. We seem to have a difference of opinion as to what this principle means and how it should be understood. Also, how the definitions of ethics and moral conduct work together in establishing the foundations of the value judgments rendered so far on this thread.

Again, thanks for a wonderful start - Now, on to the next step in the lesson.

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I would then move to placing Kingdom building over Church building, and not engaging in any activity that may help you build a church in the short term but be detrimental to the Kingdom in any way. Ministerial ethics is a very important issue to me.
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Old 12-04-2008, 06:09 PM
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Let them waste their money then! Their business...
I tend to think many of them just care about getting their voices heard. My take. Splits are splits. UPC was formed because of a split. That part we've got to let go.

CT did not continue for a year! Wish they had! Love reading attacks on us Oneness folks!
I thought the UPC was formed because of a MERGER?
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I thought the UPC was formed because of a MERGER?
However it's well-crafted. Doesn't make good PR to say "UPC was formed after the split in 1945"...

AOG - 1914
SPLIT into The General Assembly of the Apostolic Assemblies - 1917
MERGED with The Pentecostal Assemblies of the World - 1918
SPLIT BIGTIME - 3 movements: The Apostolic Churches of Jesus Christ, The Pentecostal Ministerial Alliance, and Emmanuel's Church in Jesus Christ - 1925
MERGED TOGETHER - The Apostolic Church of Jesus Christ - 1927
MERGE - The Pentecostal Assemblies of Jesus Christ - 1931
MERGE - United Pentecostal Church International - 1945

I guess we're both right. Just depends how far back we want to go! Lots of merging and splitting in Pentecost history!
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Old 12-04-2008, 06:24 PM
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In the end -- these issues really don't matter. They are human organizations, and the Kingdom of God is a whole lot bigger than both of them combined.
Of course God is not ignorant of our organizations (or preachers' unions), He knows they exist, but I think He ignores them and doesn't even recognize them. That's my personal opinion.
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Old 12-04-2008, 06:28 PM
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However it's well-crafted. Doesn't make good PR to say "UPC was formed after the split in 1945"...

AOG - 1914
SPLIT into The General Assembly of the Apostolic Assemblies - 1917
MERGED with The Pentecostal Assemblies of the World - 1918
SPLIT BIGTIME - 3 movements: The Apostolic Churches of Jesus Christ, The Pentecostal Ministerial Alliance, and Emmanuel's Church in Jesus Christ - 1925
MERGED TOGETHER - The Apostolic Church of Jesus Christ - 1927
MERGE - The Pentecostal Assemblies of Jesus Christ - 1931
MERGE - United Pentecostal Church International - 1945

I guess we're both right. Just depends how far back we want to go! Lots of merging and splitting in Pentecost history!
And, if I remember correctly,
--after the formation of the PAJC in 1931, many African American ministers left that group, revived the PAW charter, and continue today as the PAW.
--after the PAJC/PCI merger (or some would say hostile takeover of the PCI by the PAJC) some of the PAJC ministers maintained the PAJC charter and that organization still exists today. Their headquarters are about an hour away from where I live in Ohio.
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Old 12-04-2008, 06:30 PM
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You can usually start with "do unto others as you would have them do unto you", and not engage in anything that you know you would not want done in your assembly. That usually goes a long way.
Now what does that kind of an attitude have to do with (religious) politics?
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