I believe that God created the world in 6 days just like the Bible says he did.
I don't believe those days are literal 24 hour periods. I believe they are a metaphorical representation of events that occurred over a period of 13-odd billion years.
If anyone needs a label... progressive creationist fits. To anyone that takes that to label me "evolutionist" ... wrong label.
Yes, they teach that the earth is 4.54 billion years old; however, they fail to explain why they couldn't find the several feet of space dust that was supposed to be on the moon when they landed there in 1969. The accumulation of space dust was only a few centemeters; why do you suppose that is?
The cosmic dust argument is based on a wildly inaccurate equation from 1960.
The reality is the accumulation of dust for 4.6 billion years would only be a few cm, as was found.
I believe in a literal Adam and Eve who were created 12-20 thousand years ago, but I also believe that the Universe is 13.7 billion years old and that our Earth is 4.5 billion and currently orbiting a 2nd generation star.
So, you believe that some of the Bible is inaccurate then. (Not critisizing, just pointing out the obvious!)
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When I was young and clever, I wanted to change the world. Now that I am older and wiser, I strive to change myself. ~
For me the idea of "anointed myth" appears to water down the Scripture on the surface. However, it is also very powerful in that no matter what science claims, discovers, or proves... a divine myth would still teach absolute truths given by God.
I read where someone considered the book of Job something like that. He says "As satisfying as the book of Job has been to people over the ages, I have to say I find it supremely dissatisfying. If God tortures, maims, and murders people just to see how they will react-to see if they will not blame him, when in fact he is to blame-then this does not seem to me to be a God worthy of worship. Worthy of fear, yes. Of praise, no."
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Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people doing it. ~Chinese Proverb
When I was young and clever, I wanted to change the world. Now that I am older and wiser, I strive to change myself. ~
I read where someone considered the book of Job something like that. He says "As satisfying as the book of Job has been to people over the ages, I have to say I find it supremely dissatisfying. If God tortures, maims, and murders people just to see how they will react-to see if they will not blame him, when in fact he is to blame-then this does not seem to me to be a God worthy of worship. Worthy of fear, yes. Of praise, no."
Sounds like me, but I don't remember saying it...check with Timmy or Brad Murphy.
Seriously though, that is a very good example on why I have many issues with the Bible, that seem almost impossible to reconcile. To be honest, of late I have just decided to "let it go" so to speak. If God wants me to understand the things that confuse me, and to know with confidence the things that I doubt, then he will show me in His own time. In the meantime, I am content to just abide...
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"I am a great and sublime fool. But then I am God's fool,
and all His works must be contemplated with respect."
Sounds like me, but I don't remember saying it...check with Timmy or Brad Murphy.
Seriously though, that is a very good example on why I have many issues with the Bible, that seem almost impossible to reconcile. To be honest, of late I have just decided to "let it go" so to speak. If God wants me to understand the things that confuse me, and to know with confidence the things that I doubt, then he will show me in His own time. In the meantime, I am content to just abide...
I was wondering if it was you or Brad!
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
He defined “myth” as being a fictitious tale written to illustrate an underlying moral point or truth. For example, the story of the little boy who cried wolf; this story is a fairytale, a “myth”, if you will. There never was a real little boy or a real wolf. However, the moral of the story is a truth for all time. Even today we know what it means to, “cry wolf”, and the implications of loosing one’s creditability. The rabbi explained to me that the Genesis story is a bit different though. Its “anointed” meaning that this story was inspired by the very Spirit of God. The rabbi continued by saying that he didn’t believe that there had to be a literal real week of creation or a literal or real Adam and Eve.
I don't go so far as to describe Genesis as a "myth" anointed or otherwise. I believe it is a simplified representation of what occurred on a larger scale and a longer time period.
It was given to Moses in a fashion that he, and his primary audience (the people of Israel, could digest the truth of creation.
Realize that the genesis creation account does not appear in any ancient culture. Genesis is the first time. Moses, educated n Pharaoh's household, would have learned the earth is on the back of a really big turtle, and whole bunch of other nonsense.
The creation account in Genesis is nothing more than the creative truth simplified for minds that were incapable of understanding what we understand because of the body of knowledge available to us.
Moses had no way of conceiving that the books he penned would be debated over 3500 years after his death.
He had no way of conceiving the concept of a million years, much less billions of years.
The account in genesis is no less true because it is simplified. 1+2=3 is mathematic truth. So is a Fourier Transform. Go explain that to your five year old.
God is a nice God. He represents himself to folks in a way they can understand, he did it with Moses and his people who didn't know anything about cosmology, the fossil record or the geological column.
I started this thread because I am curious as to how many of our forum members believe in evolution as opposed to creation.
I do beleive in Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
So yes I do beleive in creation.
I also beleive in evolution. Examples, Man kind has been getting smarter and smarter. Some fish have evolved.
I also beleive that it is God that allows evolution to take place.
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I was wondering if it was you or Brad!
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