George W Bush is a Socialist

[jimmyrrs]

Originally Posted by Ferd

I am for extracting information from terrorists by any means necessary. If you want to call that torture be my guest I dont care.

I dont think the Patriot act went too far.

George W. Bush spent like a drunken sailor.... Or it would be better to say he stood on the sidelines and let congress spend like drunken sailors and he said nothing. for 6 of his almost 8 years the spenders were republicans. (boo! hiss!)

This financial market bailout isnt socialism its stupid and its communsim. and I am mad about it.

I will say war is war and you do what you must to win. Play fair or play dirty. Win. Protect the United States of America which is made up of people from all walks of life.

All politicans spend to much money, yet it is us the voters that put them in office. Rep's spend to much, Dem's spend to much yet when things go good we are ok with it.

I hate to see the financial market in trouble and I too am upset about the bailout. Why should the goverment help out when companies make mistakes.

If a person over spends should the gov help them out, when they KNEW BETTER.

I'm thankful my wife and I have jobs and are able to pay our bills, but GOD gave me common sense not to over do it.

I still pray the blessing of the Lord on our country.

[clgustaveson]

Originally Posted by 1399

Really?

Are you really going to tell me that for 6 of the last 8 years, NONE of Bush's "advisors" saw this coming? Are you telling me that it is perfectly excusable for these folks to have been sleep at the wheel during all of this?

The buck stops with the President.

His decisions, actions, and inactions have contributed LARGELY to this mess.

His = GWB, his administration and all who have had any kind of influence of the financial markets and situations of the last 8 years. Realistically, they are all connected to GWB, directly and indirectly.


So when the market picks up again, are you going to say, "WOW GWB was so wise, those Republicans back in 08 made the right decisions to get our country out of the mess?

Fortunately, I don't agree with that. The Market is NOT the product of the presidents actions. When it is I am moving to an isolated island in the south pacific.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by OP_Carl

You are correct that the Treasury Secretary and the Fed chairman did not act appropriately before, during, or after the financial meltdown. In that sense, the Bush administration rightly deserves blame.

The structures and systems that were put in place (by Carter and Clinton) or kept in place (by Barney Frank & Senate Democrats) that CAUSED all this should have been torn down or severely modified. We can also blame the Bush administration for not having the temerity to tackle this project - an initiative that would have been EXTREMELY unpopular if it had been attempted beforehand.

But generally speaking, it takes years for the effects of any given economic policy to become fully known.

You know what, you are really reaching to try to convince me that Carter had something to do with this, but you skip Reagan and Bush Sr.

Honestly, if you have a problem with Democrat policies then say that.

But to blame 2008's financial crisis on a President who served one term almost 30 years ago is laughable.

If his policies were that bad, then Reagan and Bush Sr are just as guilty for letting it stand.

Surely, if Carter's and Clinton's policies were that bad, the Republican President and the Republican dominated House and Senate should have done something about it to fix it.

Remember Newt's contract with America and the Republican dominated Congress of the 1990's, yeah, they share piece in this soup sandwich too, if you really want to blame Carter and Clinton.


I don't make these arguments.

Maybe the foundation for all of this mess was laid in the 1990's. Maybe.

But we are 8 years into this century, with 6 of the last 8 years dominated by Republicans.

They are largely responsible-- their actions and inactions.

That is why WE LOST this time.