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Old 11-06-2008, 02:12 PM
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I came out of lurking mode to say that perhaps it is so that MANY Black voters were for Obama because of race, but we have to consider the whole picture.

We who are White have no idea of the feeling of hearing that "you can be anything...you can accomplish anything in America," but to not feel it is so because of your race.

Tuesday night I heard once again the speech given by the late Barbara Jordon, Congresswoman from TX., where she said that when she was younger and read the words "We the people," she never thought it included her. So yes, many thought it could not be possible in their lifetime.

And though I was not an Obama supporter, had I been Black I would have probably voted for him strictly for that reason.

However, it should be noted that in a poll taken in my home state, something like 61% of the White voters voted for Obama.

It wasn't just a 'Black thing'...now back to lurking.
Unfortunately the race baiters and those who have a vest interest in keeping the race grievous agenda have not been honest to see the gains that Black Americans have made, all because the template wasn't the same.

Up to this point

We have had 2 Black Secretaries of State, one being a female

1 Black Supreme Court Justice

1 Leading Black Woman who is now a Billionaire

For almost 13% of the population that is significant. But you saw no tears in the eyes or cries of Euphoria in the streets because these blacks didn't meet the template and didn't come through the Rainbow coalition system
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Old 11-06-2008, 02:29 PM
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Many pundits are saying that the US is moving left of center on the political landscape. I think they are wrong!

I believe America is still right of center but moving slightly towards the center.

Obama won this campaign because of a perfect political storm:

1. Americans tired of war
2. The economic free fall
3. Unpopular president of the opposing party
4. Unenergized Republican ticket
5. Biased media

If the Obama administration makes the mistake of instituting liberal policies assuming America is left of center, they will be voted out of office in the next election in a landslide.

I sincerely hope that Obama doesn't lean too much to the liberal extremists that supported him and gave him credence when his campaign was at the grass roots level.

A wrong economic policy can lead us from a recession to a depression.

A wrong domestic policy can lead us from a great country to one on the road to decay.

A wrong foreign policy could make us weaker and open to attack from our enemies.

America needs to pray that Obama has wisdom to make good decisions, without regard to extremists on both the liberal and conservative camps.
You are so correct, and it is a very crucial time we live in; wouldn't you say?

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Old 11-06-2008, 07:05 PM
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Unfortunately the race baiters and those who have a vest interest in keeping the race grievous agenda have not been honest to see the gains that Black Americans have made, all because the template wasn't the same.

Up to this point

We have had 2 Black Secretaries of State, one being a female

1 Black Supreme Court Justice

1 Leading Black Woman who is now a Billionaire

For almost 13% of the population that is significant. But you saw no tears in the eyes or cries of Euphoria in the streets because these blacks didn't meet the template and didn't come through the Rainbow coalition system


Keith, most blacks do not like Condi Rice. I have several black friends in the church, some are even ministers and they don't like her. They use to hate Colin Powell too but he's redeemed himself with them.

The reason they don't like condi ( and thomas) is , they told me she is a "sell out" and that she thinks she's better then her own people. they think she is Bush's "house slave" and that she is in with their enemy.

I don't know what's it's all about but that's how they feel about it
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Old 11-06-2008, 08:12 PM
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What Does This Election Say About America?

Many pundits are saying that the US is moving left of center on the political landscape. I think they are wrong!
You are correct. This election says that, thanks to McCain-Feingold, the media selects the party nominees, and quite probably the winner, in presidential elections from now on. They selected McCain because they knew he would be easier to beat than a true conservative, and he was Maverick enough to be palatable to liberals if he accidentally won. He's basically a Reagan Democrat. The media picked both McCain and Obama.

This election says that the media has done a stunning con job at convincing the people that "Bush lied & people died."

This election says that conservatives were fed up with garbage like amnesty, prescription drug welfare, and the bailout coming from Washington-insider big-spending big-government Republicans and the Bush administration. The evidence is the increased margins in the congress, even though their approval numbers were lower than the president's.

This election says that now, like no other time in history, the American people are more susceptible than ever to media manipulation. The evidence for this is the DEMOCRATs waking up the morning after and saying, 'who is this guy we just elected? What is he going to do?'

This election says that we have transitioned from a nation built on logic and reason and now decide with emotion and passion. International peer pressure has become more important than international terrorism.

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2. The economic free fall
Some say that the economic crisis was a timely gift orchestrated by George Soros and friends manipulating commodity and futures markets. We built a great deal of the inherent problems into our economy ourselves, but this was enough to tip it over the edge.

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If the Obama administration makes the mistake of instituting liberal policies assuming America is left of center, they will be voted out of office in the next election in a landslide.
Some, working on the theory that Obama is a puppet, say that a great many of the radical leftist stuff will not be attempted. Evidence for this is supposedly the "selection" of Rahm Emmanuel as chief of staff. A good place for a well-connected Chicago machine pol to keep tight rein.

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I sincerely hope that Obama doesn't lean too much to the liberal extremists that supported him and gave him credence when his campaign was at the grass roots level.

A wrong economic policy can lead us from a recession to a depression.
The stock market the past two days shares your optimism.

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A wrong domestic policy can lead us from a great country to one on the road to decay.

A wrong foreign policy could make us weaker and open to attack from our enemies.
Obama could enjoy 90+% popularity if his first move in office was to wipe out Iran's nuke sites. That would actually be almost as scary as weakness and decay.

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America needs to pray that Obama has wisdom to make good decisions, without regard to extremists on both the liberal and conservative camps.
I think we just need to be ready to love people and share the gospel with them, because there is great potential for people to turn to God in the near future.

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I do NOT believe that Obama could have won so much as the democratic ticket if it were not for the suport of the liberal media.
Yes, and in many ways. They picked a "Republican" candidate designed from the get go to be a loveable loser. They stirred up discontent by talking about how bad the economy was - before it turned bad. They have done everything in their power to turn people's hearts away from President Bush.

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Helped by the media, but also because America basically wants to be unified. Barack stayed under the radar by not engaging in too much controversy and that's how he won. The American people did not want to hear anything negative. Unfortunately, they will find out that it will cost them.
I disagree. All conservatives, and most Republicans, have no interest in unifying themselves with the radical leftist elements in the Democrat party - the elements now in leadership all the way to the top!

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Unfortunately the race baiters and those who have a vest interest in keeping the race grievous agenda have not been honest to see the gains that Black Americans have made, all because the template wasn't the same.

Up to this point

We have had 2 Black Secretaries of State, one being a female

1 Black Supreme Court Justice

1 Leading Black Woman who is now a Billionaire

For almost 13% of the population that is significant. But you saw no tears in the eyes or cries of Euphoria in the streets because these blacks didn't meet the template and didn't come through the Rainbow coalition system
It will take quite the pretzel logic indeed for the Jesse Jackson types to maintain that blacks are still oppressed, and that any perceived plight is all the fault of "evil white government policy."

I am just whacked by the notion that some members of minority groups did not think they could make it in this country until yesterday. If this is what it takes to encourage and motivate them, great. But I suspect they will be in for some disappointment when they learn that their personal obstacles haven't changed, and Obama isn't actually going to help them very much.
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Keith, most blacks do not like Condi Rice. I have several black friends in the church, some are even ministers and they don't like her. They use to hate Colin Powell too but he's redeemed himself with them.

The reason they don't like condi ( and thomas) is , they told me she is a "sell out" and that she thinks she's better then her own people. they think she is Bush's "house slave" and that she is in with their enemy.

I don't know what's it's all about but that's how they feel about it
This speaks volumes the power of the media to race bait for the liberals and about gullibility in the back community. Condi is brilliant as is Judge Thomas.
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I’ve seen a lot of outrageous hatred being spewed forth in the last 48 hours, unbelievable levels of all kinds. People can be unbelievably stupid. The Election has brought out the real crazies, who are spewing forth vitriol in ever increasing waves of black hatred. What is bizarre is their claims are either entirely made up or simply grossly inaccurate, which tells me that what they are really afraid of is something else altogether.


Ron I beleive Vancouver, B.C. along with the rest of the world a lot safer tonight, due to McCain not getting in!!!
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I’ve seen a lot of outrageous hatred being spewed forth in the last 48 hours, unbelievable levels of all kinds. People can be unbelievably stupid. The Election has brought out the real crazies, who are spewing forth vitriol in ever increasing waves of black hatred. What is bizarre is their claims are either entirely made up or simply grossly inaccurate, which tells me that what they are really afraid of is something else altogether.


Ron I beleive Vancouver, B.C. along with the rest of the world a lot safer tonight, due to McCain not getting in!!!
Apparently, some of that hatred rubbed off on you. Your HATE for Bush is pretty bizzare.
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Apparently, some of that hatred rubbed off on you. Your HATE for Bush is pretty bizzare.


Please! The thing is I never liked or trusted Bush, so nothing new there!!!
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Many pundits are saying that the US is moving left of center on the political landscape. I think they are wrong!

I believe America is still right of center but moving slightly towards the center.

Obama won this campaign because of a perfect political storm:

1. Americans tired of war
2. The economic free fall
3. Unpopular president of the opposing party
4. Unenergized Republican ticket
5. Biased media

If the Obama administration makes the mistake of instituting liberal policies assuming America is left of center, they will be voted out of office in the next election in a landslide.

I sincerely hope that Obama doesn't lean too much to the liberal extremists

that supported him and gave him credence when his campaign was at the grass roots level.

A wrong economic policy can lead us from a recession to a depression.

A wrong domestic policy can lead us from a great country to one on the road to decay.

A wrong foreign policy could make us weaker and open to attack from our enemies.

America needs to pray that Obama has wisdom to make good decisions, without regard to extremists on both the liberal and conservative camps.
To quote Bill Clinton when he ran. "It's the economy stupid"
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To quote Bill Clinton when he ran. "It's the economy stupid"
Exactly. Most people are so stupid about economics, that they will believe that the economy is bad just because politically active journalists repeat it over and over again, regardless of fact. Most people believe that government can and should improve the economy, when time and time again it has been shown that attempts at government economic intervention usually make things worse somehow. Most people don't know how to consider the unseen effects or the unintended consequences of economic policy.
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