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Old 11-03-2008, 10:42 PM
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My point has always been that this partisan attitude has destroyed the democratic nature of our country. Yes, we have now gotten to a place where people are voting for people who are not viable and who are not anywhere near what we actually want. In this climate politicians don't have to actually do much to enjoy your partisan support. It is ridiculous to me to not demand something concrete and measurable for you loyal support. Other largely partisan groups don't do it. Most of them are smart enough to make the issues that are of vital importance to them vitally important to the platform and in the way we are governed.

In those traditional areas that you just named, look at the record. All the major candidates are saying the same thing about marriage vs. civil unions. None are coming out and aggressively promising to do something about the millions of murders. The only concrete statement I have heard from McCain so far is that the abortion issue is not worthy of being a determining factor in the appointment of Justices. And just recently quite a bit of our tax dollars were redistributed to some pretty wealthy people, and the reports of what I have seen some of this money used on and for is pretty frustrating.
Don't worry. You are going to get your wish with your first black President who also happens to be the most left wing liberal President this country has ever had.

Obama will win big on the votes of the bazillions of newly registered ghetto voters who wouldn't know an issue if it slapped them in the face. All they know is that he is a brother. I just watched a clip on YouTube of a news interview with a black woman who had just finished listening to the Obama Messiah at a rally and she told the interviewer that she was so excited because Obama was going to take care of her rent and car payment because she knew that if she helped him he was going to help her! Duh!!! Where do these people come from?

The other voters that will insure his win are the mushy headed left wing college students who finally have a canidate that has them excited enough to actually vote. Last but not least the millions of white Americans who are so eat up with political correctness they just could not live with themselves and their white guilt if they did not vote for the first Black Presidential canidate regardless of his lack of qualifications.

The only thing that scares me more than Obama is Obama with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid pusing him even further to the left with their agendas and the majorities in congress to pass them.
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20 of the last 28 years have been presided over by a pro-life republican president.


20 years of allowing abortions to continue.

What has been attempted by those presidents?

They ALL support abortion if they do nothing about it.

Talk is cheap. Action requires something of a person...
Bush signed a bill into law that bans partial-birth abortions, that's a start.
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Old 11-03-2008, 10:45 PM
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Bush signed a bill into law that bans partial-birth abortions, that's a start.
Apparently digging4truth doesn't actually do much digging!
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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Old 11-04-2008, 06:33 AM
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Apparently digging4truth doesn't actually do much digging!
And when he does he doesn't dig for truth.
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Old 11-04-2008, 06:37 AM
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Don't worry. You are going to get your wish with your first black President who also happens to be the most left wing liberal President this country has ever had.

Obama will win big on the votes of the bazillions of newly registered ghetto voters who wouldn't know an issue if it slapped them in the face. All they know is that he is a brother. I just watched a clip on YouTube of a news interview with a black woman who had just finished listening to the Obama Messiah at a rally and she told the interviewer that she was so excited because Obama was going to take care of her rent and car payment because she knew that if she helped him he was going to help her! Duh!!! Where do these people come from?

The other voters that will insure his win are the mushy headed left wing college students who finally have a canidate that has them excited enough to actually vote. Last but not least the millions of white Americans who are so eat up with political correctness they just could not live with themselves and their white guilt if they did not vote for the first Black Presidential canidate regardless of his lack of qualifications.

The only thing that scares me more than Obama is Obama with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid pusing him even further to the left with their agendas and the majorities in congress to pass them.
A black woman on the radio said she had voted for white presidents all her life and now she has a chance to vote for a black man and she didn't care if he is a crook. If it wasn't for blacks and Bush haters Obama wouldn't make it to first base.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:13 AM
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Don't worry. You are going to get your wish with your first black President who also happens to be the most left wing liberal President this country has ever had.

Obama will win big on the votes of the bazillions of newly registered ghetto voters who wouldn't know an issue if it slapped them in the face. All they know is that he is a brother. I just watched a clip on YouTube of a news interview with a black woman who had just finished listening to the Obama Messiah at a rally and she told the interviewer that she was so excited because Obama was going to take care of her rent and car payment because she knew that if she helped him he was going to help her! Duh!!! Where do these people come from?

The other voters that will insure his win are the mushy headed left wing college students who finally have a canidate that has them excited enough to actually vote. Last but not least the millions of white Americans who are so eat up with political correctness they just could not live with themselves and their white guilt if they did not vote for the first Black Presidential canidate regardless of his lack of qualifications.

The only thing that scares me more than Obama is Obama with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid pusing him even further to the left with their agendas and the majorities in congress to pass them.
CC, I don't really know you, but from what I have read of you, this seems a bit beneath you. I have never said that I like or support Obama, and I have certainly never said anything about wanting him because he is black and that trumps everything.
Are there ignorant people voting for Obama? Absolutely. Are there ignorant people voting for McCain? Absolutely. One thing that has been consistent here on this forum is that it has been the "righteous" side that has resorted to negative attacks on people and groups of people. Some of the characterizations of all Obama supporters as mushy and ignorant are just as bush league as those in our society who say the same thing about people voting based on a manipulation of our Christian values.

I am glad that this election is about to be over. Either way, I am through with the Election Section. Some of this is just getting ridiculous to me.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:17 AM
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A black woman on the radio said she had voted for white presidents all her life and now she has a chance to vote for a black man and she didn't care if he is a crook. If it wasn't for blacks and Bush haters Obama wouldn't make it to first base.
That a canidate with as little experience became a nominee of either party is an embarressment. This guy was only in the Senate for two years when he started campaigning full time for the Presidency. I saw an interview with Michelle Obama this morning where she said that she had been hesitant for him to enter the Presidential race because they had just got done with the Senate one!

At this point I am just praying that Obama's desire to be re-elected in four years will cause him to moderate and hold Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid off from fully enacting the policies Dem's have been salivating to do for twenty years now.
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"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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Old 11-04-2008, 10:22 AM
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CC, I don't really know you, but from what I have read of you, this seems a bit beneath you. I have never said that I like or support Obama, and I have certainly never said anything about wanting him because he is black and that trumps everything.
Are there ignorant people voting for Obama? Absolutely. Are there ignorant people voting for McCain? Absolutely. One thing that has been consistent here on this forum is that it has been the "righteous" side that has resorted to negative attacks on people and groups of people. Some of the characterizations of all Obama supporters as mushy and ignorant are just as bush league as those in our society who say the same thing about people voting based on a manipulation of our Christian values.

I am glad that this election is about to be over. Either way, I am through with the Election Section. Some of this is just getting ridiculous to me.

I did make an assumption but one from what I have observed first hand during this election cycle. First of all the Dems already have over 90% of the black vote in the bag every Presidential election as they have done a good job of keeping Black Americans on the Federal plantation. However beyond that I have observed this cycle that just the fact that Obama is black has brought many new black voters to the polls who don't have a clue about policies, positions, etc but who are simply voting for him on the basis of his skin color.

Even the handful of blacks who have voted Republican in the past seem to be voting for Obama strictly on the basis of his skin color. I disagree with them but do understand the tremendous pride that they must have in there finally being a viable Black Presidential canidate aftter the laughing stocks like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. The irony is that if white people voted for canidates strictly on the color of their skin no black person would ever get elected to a statewide or national office.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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I did make an assumption but one from what I have observed first hand during this election cycle. First of all the Dems already have over 90% of the black vote in the bag every Presidential election as they have done a good job of keeping Black Americans on the Federal plantation. However beyond that I have observed this cycle that just the fact that Obama is black has brought many new black voters to the polls who don't have a clue about policies, positions, etc but who are simply voting for him on the basis of his skin color.

Even the handful of blacks who have voted Republican in the past seem to be voting for Obama strictly on the basis of his skin color. I disagree with them but do understand the tremendous pride that they must have in there finally being a viable Black Presidential canidate aftter the laughing stocks like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. The irony is that if white people voted for canidates strictly on the color of their skin no black person would ever get elected to a statewide or national office.

I'm not sure what your assumption has to do with me personally. Noone on this thread has been more critical of blind partisanship in the Black community as I have. Your categorization of me in your first post is nowhere near the way I have presented myself as an individual and was frankly a bit insulting.

I'm about through with this all, but I'll just point out once again that that is all akin to women voting for Sarah Palin because she is a female. I don't hear you complaining about that, and that has been presented concretely as part of the strategic nature of the pick. In that case you do have people jumping the party line to vote for her. That is the phenomenon that is not in keeping with tradition. When you can attract Hillary Clinton supporters to the GOP based on gender, you have something significant and out of keeping with the norm.
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Am I the only one disturbed that the oh so compassionate bleeding heart liberal Democrats seem to only be generous and compassionate with others money?

Recent legal election disclosures have shown that despite earning millions of dollars over the last ten years the Democrat Vice Presidential canidate Joe Biden only gave around $ 3,600 total to charity over that ten years!
The liberal social ethic is inclined to uphold the idea of what they believe is a compassionate society based on social duty and social obligation toward one's neighbor. Charity is viewed as nice for providing an occasional bag of groceries when times are tight...but it doesn't take care of an elderly woman who needs medication she can't afford three times a day for the rest of her life. So for the liberal, charity is nice...but for far too many it just doesn't deliver.

That's why God's Law required land owners to pay a poor tithe and to allow the poor to glean the corners an the edges of their fields. God's Law didn't make it voluntary charity, that wouldn't deliver. Instead God's Law required a just and compassionate society. The poor we will have with us always...therefore society as a whole must always be diligent to help the poor, destitute, and yes....even the unworthy.
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