Colin Powell is no Republican

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Antipas

Ferd, here are my thoughts....

I think Colin Powell is making an astute observation. McCain, in picking his VP, chose someone who is perceived as lacking experience…yes…similar to how many people see Obama. However, Obama chose a very seasoned VP candidate. In addition, Obama has made it known that though Colin Powell is a Republican (moderate) he is welcome to serve as an advisor in an Obama Administration. Biden and Colin Powell are very skilled politicians and seasoned leaders. That shows the kind of wisdom Obama would lead with. McCain’s choice illustrates a man grasping for political expediency…and by choosing Palin, McCain can be said to be putting the nation in harm’s way, because Palin is very inexperienced and would be expected to lead the nation in the event of a national tragedy should McCain face some form of demise. In my opinion, McCain’s choice of VP is sufficient grounds to question his wisdom, leadership, and his foresightedness. McCain’s choice of VP illustrates that he isn’t looking much beyond election strategy. I see exactly what Powell is saying and I’ve been saying it for quite some time myself.

good for you. I am glad you have an opinion.


but lets get this right.

Obama is good because he is inexperienced
McCain is bad because he picked a VP who is inexperienced.

I guess that makes sense.

Oh and by the way McCain has a pretty solid cross over supporter in Joe Leiberman. It just seems that nobody really cares at all.

LOL!

[Antipas]

Originally Posted by scotty

I knew something was missing from all of this immaturity..

LOL

So you don't believe that McCain chose Palin and Obama chose Biden?

Think about the implications of each man's choice. Obama chose Biden, a seasoned leader and politician to lead should the nation face the crisis of his demise. McCain chose an inexperienced woman who is essentially like....Obama. LOL

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Antipas

You see life in snap shots...I see it in streaming video. McCain was very much a maverick who bucked the party line. But since 2000 McCain has become one of Bush's pandering lap dogs, and right now the same special interests that support Bush are teaching McCain how to fetch and roll over. People change. McCain realized in 2000 that he couldn't be himself and win the Republican nomination because Conservative Republicans have never been thrilled with him. For the past 8 years McCain has re-imaged himself for political expediency. It's sad really. He looks so desperate to be President.

just for the record. the pandering lapdog McCain looked George Bush in the Eye and said "FIRE RUMSFELD" and "YOUR IRAQ POLICY IS DEAD WRONG"

he also got McCain Feingold passed which George Bush said was unconstitutional and after it passed, took it to the High Court and lost.

McCain is no conservative that is for sure. but comments like "Bush Lapdog" need context.

[Antipas]

Originally Posted by Ferd

good for you. I am glad you have an opinion.


but lets get this right.

Obama is good because he is inexperienced
McCain is bad because he picked a VP who is inexperienced.

I guess that makes sense.

Oh and by the way McCain has a pretty solid cross over supporter in Joe Leiberman. It just seems that nobody really cares at all.

LOL!

LOL

No, let me set ya staight bubba. I'm thinking that you'll catch on and at least see the point for what it really is....

Obama's inexperienced....but he demonstrated exceptional wisdom and leadership ability by choosing seasoned leaders like Biden and Powell as Vice President and key advisor.

McCain's experienced...but he demonstrated a lack of wisdom and blatant political desperation by choosing Barbie to hold the second most powerful executive office in the United States.

And as far as Joe Lieberman goes...he'll do anything to set himself apart from the rank and file Democrat.

[Antipas]

Originally Posted by Ferd

just for the record. the pandering lapdog McCain looked George Bush in the Eye and said "FIRE RUMSFELD" and "YOUR IRAQ POLICY IS DEAD WRONG"

he also got McCain Feingold passed which George Bush said was unconstitutional and after it passed, took it to the High Court and lost.

McCain is no conservative that is for sure. but comments like "Bush Lapdog" need context.

I never said that the lap dog didn't occasionally bite the hand that feeds him. Temperamental little dogs do that now and again.

But for the record...McCain only told Bush what Obama and other Democrats had been saying all along! LOL

I think they should make a, "McCain for Obama", yard sign. ROFL

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Antipas

LOL

No, let me set ya staight bubba. I'm thinking that you're way too intelligent not to catch on and at least see the point for what it really is....

Obama's inexperienced....but he demonstrated exceptional wisdom and leadership ability by choosing seasoned leaders like Biden and Powell as Vice President and key advisor.

McCain's experienced...but he demonstrated a lack of wisdom and a grasping for political expediency by choosing Barbie to hold the second most powerful executive office in the United States.

And as far as Joe Lieberman goes...he'll do anything to set himself apart from the rank and file Democrat.

I know where you are coming from Antipas. and I dont agree. Frist of all Obama HAD to pick someone who would be seen as a steady hand just like George Bush did (back then we called that gravitas).

McCain didnt have that problem. Unlike Obama McCain had all the gravitas he needed......until the spinmiesters in the media got ahold of the decision.

All the sudden McCain needs more gavitas because he is old and might die.

McCain did what he needed to do and that was pick someone who appealed to the base and could bring energy to the campaign. He did that.

But to think that the libs were going to let him do what he needed to do without taking their shots is silly.

this line of Republicans picking weak VPs would be stupid if it wasnt so old. It is at least as old as Richard Nixon. and maybe older than that.

There hasnt been a republican VP candidate that wasnt either too old, too inexperienced, or too mean in living memory.

The proof is in the reality that I can name every President going back to Woodrow Wilson but with the exception of the ones who became president, or who got kicked out of office, I cant name a VP beyond Al Gore.

VPs dont matter. They never really have except this time because John McCains VP energized his base. Therefore the air needed to be let out of the balloon.

The hypocracy of Collin Powell saying that Palin isnt qualified is a parrotting of the same hypocracy of so many others who will vote for a PRESIDENT who is no more qualified than the woman they denigrate.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Antipas

I never said that the lap dog didn't occasionally bite the hand that feeds him. Temperamental little dogs do that now and again.

But for the record...McCain only told Bush what Obama and other Democrats had been saying all along! LOL

I think they should make a, "McCain for Obama", yard sign. ROFL

Antipas, at this point you simply need to step back and say you were wrong.

and to suggest that McCain said what dems is laughable. Obama and the Dems were saying all hope is lost. We have lost in Iraq and need to come home and lick our wounds (except when they were calling our boys war criminals and genocidal manics.... or as John Kerry so elloquintely put it "STUPID")

McCain said we should be there and we need a better stratagy. big difference Antipas.

[Antipas]

I can see the add now....

*In a deep and serious political voice*

"McCain courageously stood up to President Bush, admonishing him to fire Rumsfeld, and warning him that his Iraq policy was dead wrong...just like Obama and other leading Democrats. The Democrats were right...and so was McCain. McCain... when you're right, you're right.

This message was produced and paid for by McCain for President 2009."

[Antipas]

Originally Posted by Ferd

I know where you are coming from Antipas. and I dont agree. Frist of all Obama HAD to pick someone who would be seen as a steady hand just like George Bush did (back then we called that gravitas).

McCain didnt have that problem. Unlike Obama McCain had all the gravitas he needed......until the spinmiesters in the media got ahold of the decision.

All the sudden McCain needs more gavitas because he is old and might die.

McCain did what he needed to do and that was pick someone who appealed to the base and could bring energy to the campaign. He did that.

But to think that the libs were going to let him do what he needed to do without taking their shots is silly.

this line of Republicans picking weak VPs would be stupid if it wasnt so old. It is at least as old as Richard Nixon. and maybe older than that.

There hasnt been a republican VP candidate that wasnt either too old, too inexperienced, or too mean in living memory.

The proof is in the reality that I can name every President going back to Woodrow Wilson but with the exception of the ones who became president, or who got kicked out of office, I cant name a VP beyond Al Gore.

VPs dont matter. They never really have except this time because John McCains VP energized his base. Therefore the air needed to be let out of the balloon.

The hypocracy of Collin Powell saying that Palin isnt qualified is a parrotting of the same hypocracy of so many others who will vote for a PRESIDENT who is no more qualified than the woman they denigrate.

Ferd...McCain didn't have to pick an Obamalike Barbie as a running mate. McCain could have picked someone just as seasoned as himself and delivered a one-two punch for a knock out.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Antipas

I can see the add now....

*In a deep and serious political voice*

"McCain courageously stood up to President Bush, admonishing him to fire Rumsfeld, and warning him that his Iraq policy was dead wrong...just like Obama and other leading Democrats. The Democrats were right...and so was McCain. McCain... when you're right, you're right.

This message was produced and paid for by McCain for President 2009."

you need to review speaches made in congress.

Dems and Obama didnt say we needed to win in Iraq. they all agreed that we needed to pull out as we had already been defeated.