Certainly... one of the promises... the promise that by his seed all the world would be blessed.
but God told Abraham, that he would bless those that blessed him and curse those that cursed him. God extended that to his decendants of Promise....
i think I will stick with blessing Israel.
But Jesus is THE Promised of seed Abraham, and we are His Children once we have entered into The Promise.
He is the One of which blessing and curses are pronounced on or off, depending on one's acceptance of Him.
Unsure of your views here, but the Covenant of which you speak was Fulfilled by Jesus, and the Church IS the everlasting Covenant Promised to Abraham.
Supercessionist replacement theology raises it's ugly head again in the body of Christ.
Jesus did not fulfill an EVERLASTING covenant, because if He did, that means it isn't EVERLASTING, is it? G-d made a covenant with The Land of Israel, and it didn't get transferred to the United States by the Blood of Jesus.
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Originally Posted by Bowas
Psa 33:12 Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD;
God has blessed the USA not becase of who our friends or our enemies are, but because of our relationship with Him.
Notice to if you will, that all the nations that have been friends to us while we were following His ways, have been blessed. Why is that? Because... Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
We must consider the whole counsel of God in formulating our teachings.
G-d has blessed the USA because our nation feared Him and later, blessed His Nation: Israel.
The United States IS NOT Israel. The Gentiles did not replace Israel, but were grafted in to Israel as a wild olive branch. Paul says the root supports us, so we are not to boast above or against the natural branches of the tree. To quote you, we must consider the whole counsel of G-d in formulating our teachings.
Ron Paul would leave Israel, our best ally in the Middle East up a creek without a paddle, or even a boat.
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I’m not a scholar, just a crazy Jewish Believer who wants to see no one deceived and everyone saved.
Shalom uv’racha b’shem Yeshua Mishikheinu!
Peace and blessings unto you in the Name of Yeshua, Our Messiah!
But Jesus is THE Promised of seed Abraham, and we are His Children once we have entered into The Promise.
He is the One of which blessing and curses are pronounced on or off, depending on one's acceptance of Him.
...and when we bless Israel, we bless Him. He is The KING of Israel.
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I’m not a scholar, just a crazy Jewish Believer who wants to see no one deceived and everyone saved.
Shalom uv’racha b’shem Yeshua Mishikheinu!
Peace and blessings unto you in the Name of Yeshua, Our Messiah!
Supercessionist replacement theology raises it's ugly head again in the body of Christ.
Jesus did not fulfill an EVERLASTING covenant, because if He did, that means it isn't EVERLASTING, is it? G-d made a covenant with The Land of Israel, and it didn't get transferred to the United States by the Blood of Jesus.
G-d has blessed the USA because our nation feared Him and later, blessed His Nation: Israel.
The United States IS NOT Israel. The Gentiles did not replace Israel, but were grafted in to Israel as a wild olive branch. Paul says the root supports us, so we are not to boast above or against the natural branches of the tree. To quote you, we must consider the whole counsel of G-d in formulating our teachings.
Ron Paul would leave Israel, our best ally in the Middle East up a creek without a paddle, or even a boat.
Of course the USA is not a replacement for Israel. Wow! Where did that come from? Jesus, and by extention, the Church is the Fulfillment of the Promise give to Abraham.
Yes, The Promise is the everlasting Gospel, and is for those that recieve it. (Holy Ghost).
I do not boast against the natural branches of the tree, but they MUST be re-joined (grafted) into the very same tree the very same way as everyone else. Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; Rom 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. Rom 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in. Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
All were separated and or broken off and all must be grafted into Him..The tree, the same way. Yes?
Supercessionist replacement theology raises it's ugly head again in the body of Christ.
Jesus did not fulfill an EVERLASTING covenant, because if He did, that means it isn't EVERLASTING, is it? G-d made a covenant with The Land of Israel, and it didn't get transferred to the United States by the Blood of Jesus.
G-d has blessed the USA because our nation feared Him and later, blessed His Nation: Israel.
The United States IS NOT Israel. The Gentiles did not replace Israel, but were grafted in to Israel as a wild olive branch. Paul says the root supports us, so we are not to boast above or against the natural branches of the tree. To quote you, we must consider the whole counsel of G-d in formulating our teachings.
Ron Paul would leave Israel, our best ally in the Middle East up a creek without a paddle, or even a boat.
The root is not the nation of Israel, rather, it is Jesus.
It is not referring to being grafted into Israel per se, rather it is being grafted into or joined or married to Him.
Unless of course (and you would be correct) you are referring to Jesus as the true Israel of God, in whch case, we are grafted into Him.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
Guarentee? Struggleing? Wuold? Possobly? It's hard to take your post seriously when you care so little about the quality of words you type.
We have opened our wallet to nearly every nation in the United Nations, including former colonial and 20th Century Superpowers. Many of these other countries respond to our generosity by expelling our ambassadors and burning our flag, but Israel remains grateful. Also allow me to point out that we don't give everything to Israel, as you might have others here to believe: Israel BUYS things from us, and a lot of it. If you ever go to Israel, you would be shocked to see how many American-made things there are in the country, not to mention the proliferation of American businesses.
Allow me to share an event with you.
When I went to Israel in autumn '05, I took a boat ride on Lake Kinneret (Sea of Galilee) with 7 US citizens and 16 Canadians. The boat flies the Flag of Israel (Magen David) at the stern. As we pulled away from the shore, the 3-man crew proceeded to play at top volume an audio track of the Star Spangled Banner, take out the Stars & Stripes (equal in size to the Israel flag), and hoist it up the boat's main flag pole. The crew then stood at attention until the conclusion of the anthem. The crew then resumed their duties. After the Canadians responded with "Oh Canada", the Captain of the boat appeared and the Canadian group coordinator asked (loud enough for all to hear) to know why the USA flag and anthem was played when most of the people on the boat were Canadian. The Captain looked him in the eye and in a thick Israeli accent said, "Because the United States is THE ONLY NATION that has ever stood up for Israel! And as you can see, all of us feel this way." We turned and looked at several other large boats on the water: they all flew the Flag of Israel at the stern and the Stars and Stripes either on the main pole or at the helm. To see that as an American, the word proud cannot begin to describe how I felt.
Like it or not, Israel provides us with more info than 10 NATO's.
I would appreciate knowing what the nation of Israel did in the First Century against a small group of "Christians." Please elaborate.
Akuly, i am a artikulet speeler. ok. so i wonce an awile messpeel a wurd or to, but for you two use thet as a bases fer the vuliditee of my rgument, shows you ar grassping to descount the messege bye a dieversion of thee messenger.
Nise tri, but knot gonna wurk hear.
i dun red the wurd. an i no whut it sez!
Of course the USA is not a replacement for Israel. Wow! Where did that come from? Jesus, and by extention, the Church is the Fulfillment of the Promise give to Abraham.
Yes, The Promise is the everlasting Gospel, and is for those that recieve it. (Holy Ghost).
I do not boast against the natural branches of the tree, but they MUST be re-joined (grafted) into the very same tree the very same way as everyone else. Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; Rom 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. Rom 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in. Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
All were separated and or broken off and all must be grafted into Him..The tree, the same way. Yes?
No. Rom 11:17 says 'some'. Not all, as you would have everyone to believe.
...and you partake of the root of the olive tree: the olive tree of Israel. Israel is your heritage.
And would you mind elaborating on what Israel did in the First Century to a small group of "Christians"? Second request, Bowas.
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I’m not a scholar, just a crazy Jewish Believer who wants to see no one deceived and everyone saved.
Shalom uv’racha b’shem Yeshua Mishikheinu!
Peace and blessings unto you in the Name of Yeshua, Our Messiah!
Yes it says some,because many Jews in the first century did believe.Not all rejected Christ.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
No. Rom 11:17 says 'some'. Not all, as you would have everyone to believe.
...and you partake of the root of the olive tree: the olive tree of Israel. Israel is your heritage.
And would you mind elaborating on what Israel did in the First Century to a small group of "Christians"? Second request, Bowas.
I am sure you are aware that Israel is often used synonynously used with Jews (I know the difference) therefore what I was referring to, was the persecution of the Christians by the Jewish peoples during the first century.
But you already knew that.
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