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Old 08-19-2008, 01:27 PM
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AMEN, except, there aint no "degree" about it.

They all say exactly what they think we want to hear, and then go and do whatever they want to, or at least what they can get away with!
it just greaves my heart to see or hear this kind of thought process.
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Old 08-19-2008, 01:31 PM
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it just greaves my heart to see or hear this kind of thought process.
Ferd, I am not going to do the politics thing with you, I swore that off a while back, but I will say that I was a die-hard republican up until the last 4 years or so, and now I don't know what I am other than extremely disillusioned.

I respect that you don't understand that, but it is what it is, and nothing anyone can say is going to change it, it is going to take me seeing different things from those in power to change my feelings. I don't have real high hopes in that regard.
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Old 08-19-2008, 01:33 PM
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Ferd, I am not going to do the politics thing with you, I swore that off a while back, but I will say that I was a die-hard republican up until the last 4 years or so, and now I don't know what I am other than extremely disillusioned.

I respect that you don't understand that, but it is what it is, and nothing anyone can say is going to change it, it is going to take me seeing different things from those in power to change my feelings. I don't have real high hopes in that regard.
Its all good. these political discussions can get rough and tumble.
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Oh, you mean like "We really, really, really don't like abortions, but we're never going to actually do anyhthing about it...but vote for me because of it"?
EXACTLY. Where Obama lost many was that he believed in killing a baby who was aborted alive, as if aborting a baby in utero was any different, but a live baby being purposely made to die is infanticide in the worst possible degree!
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Ferd, I am not going to do the politics thing with you, I swore that off a while back, but I will say that I was a die-hard republican up until the last 4 years or so, and now I don't know what I am other than extremely disillusioned.

I respect that you don't understand that, but it is what it is, and nothing anyone can say is going to change it, it is going to take me seeing different things from those in power to change my feelings. I don't have real high hopes in that regard.
We all like to think we are disillusioned and have the correct view on anything we take a stand for.
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speaking of Obamanation, I heard a clip of his answer about abortion. basically he said any answer was "above his pay grade". I agree! being that a president doesnt have anyone "above his pay grade" I dont think Obamanation should be president.

what an idiot answer.
Of all the arrogant snobbery...
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Old 08-19-2008, 01:42 PM
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We all like to think we are disillusioned and have the correct view on anything we take a stand for.
I don't think I mentioned anything I "stand" for, just how I feel. We all like to think everything that WE think and feel is right, what is your point? I'm not promoting anything. I respect that everyone has different viewpoints, but that doesn't make mine invalid.
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Old 08-19-2008, 01:54 PM
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Ferd, I am not going to do the politics thing with you, I swore that off a while back, but I will say that I was a die-hard republican up until the last 4 years or so, and now I don't know what I am other than extremely disillusioned.

I respect that you don't understand that, but it is what it is, and nothing anyone can say is going to change it, it is going to take me seeing different things from those in power to change my feelings. I don't have real high hopes in that regard.
Bush's second term really turned me against the Republicans too.
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yeah , yeah , yah, whateva,. lol
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Old 08-19-2008, 02:11 PM
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Bush's second term really turned me against the Republicans too.
trying not to be harsh but from what ive seen, that was a pretty easy turn.
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