Are we at the beginning of a major world war?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

So, you don't know, but blame it on the Irish? (are you serious?)

I'm Irish, but I'm not drunk. And yes, as far as the mythic origins of the Irish people goes, I am entirely serious. But the point I was making was this: The popular identification of the modern Russian nation with the Biblical "Gog and Magog" makes less sense than just about any other identification in the past.

Preceding WW1, Darbyists/Dispensationalists were convinced that Gog/Magog were the Ottomans. The simple fact of the matter is: whoever they were in antiquity, the identification was almost purely a Hebrew one. There was no nation known to even the Hebrews who went around calling themselves "Gog and/or Magog." It was a label the Hebrews pinned to some now unknown tribe(s).

If they were the Scythians, as most scholars have speculated, then they are certainly not modern Russians. The Russian peoples arose from a mingling of Vikings from Scandanavia (Rus himself was a noted Viking warlord) and Slavic speaking peoples from the shores of the Baltic Sea.

Originally Posted by Nina

Where do You get this?

Nina

I was a history major. In fact, I earned a Doctorate in History (Ph.D.) from Miskatonic University, located in Arkham, Massachusetts. It would be best if no one questioned me about this claim.

You can read the Lebor Gabála Érenn here (click on the word "here"). You can read about it by clicking on the words "Lebor Gabala Erenn" above.

This is a work of mythic history written around the 1100's. It was obviously influenced by the Bible which was unknown in Ireland before the 300 - 400's AD, but it also calls upon pagan sources of information. The "real" history behind all of this is unfortunately lost. However, there are many elements that have proven true. The story of the Milesian migration including refugees from Egypt (while seeming to be a rip-off of the Israelite story) is actually attested in a couple of ancient Roman and Greek works. So go figure.

I like the part about the Tuatha De Dannan force field the best - though there is probably little liklihood that such science (or "magic") was possessed by anyone in the Late Bronze Age/Early Iron Age.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by gloryseeker

If God was going to judge America in the way that you described then He would have to destroy Russia.

Not necessarily. Don't forget He used Babylon to destroy Israel and Judah. It wasn't until after he used Babylon to fulfil His purpose that he brought judgment down on them for their wickedness.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by pelathais

I'm Irish, but I'm not drunk. And yes, as far as the mythic origins of the Irish people goes, I am entirely serious. But the point I was making was this: The popular identification of the modern Russian nation with the Biblical "Gog and Magog" makes less sense than just about any other identification in the past.

Preceding WW1, Darbyists/Dispensationalists were convinced that Gog/Magog were the Ottomans. The simple fact of the matter is: whoever they were in antiquity, the identification was almost purely a Hebrew one. There was no nation known to even the Hebrews who went around calling themselves "Gog and/or Magog." It was a label the Hebrews pinned to some now unknown tribe(s).

If they were the Scythians, as most scholars have speculated, then they are certainly not modern Russians. The Russian peoples arose from a mingling of Vikings from Scandanavia (Rus himself was a noted Viking warlord) and Slavic speaking peoples from the shores of the Baltic Sea.



I was a history major. In fact, I earned a Doctorate in History (Ph.D.) from Miskatonic University, located in Arkham, Massachusetts. It would be best if no one questioned me about this claim.

You can read the Lebor Gabála Érenn here (click on the word "here"). You can read about it by clicking on the words "Lebor Gabala Erenn" above.

This is a work of mythic history written around the 1100's. It was obviously influenced by the Bible which was unknown in Ireland before the 300 - 400's AD, but it also calls upon pagan sources of information. The "real" history behind all of this is unfortunately lost. However, there are many elements that have proven true. The story of the Milesian migration including refugees from Egypt (while seeming to be a rip-off of the Israelite story) is actually attested in a couple of ancient Roman and Greek works. So go figure.

I like the part about the Tuatha De Dannan force field the best - though there is probably little liklihood that such science (or "magic") was possessed by anyone in the Late Bronze Age/Early Iron Age.

Uh oh! You done opened up the floodgates now! I think I hear the rumble of stampeding feet as I type!

[Nina]

Originally Posted by pelathais

You can read the Lebor Gabála Érenn here (click on the word "here"). You can read about it by clicking on the words "Lebor Gabala Erenn" above.

This is a work of mythic history written around the 1100's. It was obviously influenced by the Bible which was unknown in Ireland before the 300 - 400's AD, but it also calls upon pagan sources of information. The "real" history behind all of this is unfortunately lost. However, there are many elements that have proven true. The story of the Milesian migration including refugees from Egypt (while seeming to be a rip-off of the Israelite story) is actually attested in a couple of ancient Roman and Greek works. So go figure.

I like the part about the Tuatha De Dannan force field the best - though there is probably little liklihood that such science (or "magic") was possessed by anyone in the Late Bronze Age/Early Iron Age.

Thanks for the site. I send it on to my brother.

Also,

We have a state park a few miles from here called, "Holy Ground."

Chief Red Eagle and company thought that the white man's bullets couldn't harm them as long as they stayed on their land.

They found out otherwise,,,

Nina

[Nina]

Originally Posted by Nina

Thanks for the site. I send it on to my brother.

Also,

We have a state park a few miles from here called, "Holy Ground."

Chief Red Eagle and company thought that the white man's bullets couldn't harm them as long as they stayed on their land.

They found out otherwise,,,

Nina

I posted before I read any of Your link.

Brother, my brain would be fried if I read what You read!

Bress died in Carn ui Neit by the treachery of Lug,
with no fullness of falsehood:
for him it was a cause of quarrel
indeed drinking bog-stuff in the guise of milk.



Whew!!!!!!


Forget the Holy Ground thing!
I don't think it has anything to do with the force field!

[TCSQ]

It escalates....


General Anatoly Nogovitsyn deputy chief of the Russian general Staff told reporters that the US Polish missile shield defense agreement exacerbates Russian-US relations saying that the deal " CANNOT GO UNPUNISHED".

"Poland by deploying the system is exposing itself to a strike... ONE HUNDRED PERCENT." Interfax quoted Nogovitsyn as saying.

Of course Poland being a NATO country threatened with a Russian air Strike or Missile Strike ratchets up the stakes from a regional Crimean conflict of Russian invasion to a Russia vs. Continental Europe/ North American conflict.

Perhaps this will die down, but wether it does OR NOT the reality here is that Russia is flexing its muscles and voicing threats it has not since the days of the cold war.

And should it die down one has to ask themselves FOR HOW LONG?

WWTD?

[IsolatedSaint]

Originally Posted by TCSQ

I know! It's a very precarious situation! If we do NOTHING then Russia will only be emboldened to try it again! If we do SOMETHING there is no telling what the outcome would be!

Georgia apparently is the most pro western of all the former Soviet Republics, and we cant dissapoint their confidence in us.

Now the NATO nations must seriously consider the possibilities of future conflict with the reawakening Russia.

Mainstream Media is lying to you all.......Georgia is the one that initiated this conflict, not Russia, and that on purpose by design in order to pick a fight with Russia and launch WW3. And yes WW3 is eminent....this is not going to be another one of those ARMED CHAIR QUARTERBACK type wars like Iraq and Afghanistan where it doesn't physically in a direct way affect us.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by IsolatedSaint

Mainstream Media is lying to you all.......Georgia is the one that initiated this conflict, not Russia, and that on purpose by design in order to pick a fight with Russia and launch WW3. And yes WW3 is eminent....this is not going to be another one of those ARMED CHAIR QUARTERBACK type wars like Iraq and Afghanistan where it doesn't physically in a direct way affect us.

What he said.....

[BrotherEastman]

I say we nuke Russia and get it over with.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

I say we nuke Russia and get it over with.

And many in Russia think the same way about us. How far from reality people can be. True in a war with Russia it would go nuclear very quick probably within a few days.

When it does were talking MILLIONS DEAD on both sides. Were talking living without electricity for years. Were talking bands of roving refugees scouring the countryside looking for food and drink and willing to kill for it. Were talking great tribulation at least worse than has ever been known as far as its widespread nature.

If merely 10 or 20 of the 25,OOO nukes Russia has falls on us this would happen if in key places. Of course Christians should see this as a sign that our redemption is drawing near. But many are not spiritually prepared to face such times.

So to me its not as simple as nuke them and get it over with. There are possibly as many Christians in Russia as there are here. Would we want to evaporate them and their families?

I sure dont have the wisdom to know what to do in the natural. In my spirit I say terrible times are coming. Yet the move of the Spirit will be magnified like has never been seen.

A revival without Church buildings. Without money. Energized by the Spirit of YHWH alone.