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Re: Interesting Article on Joel Osteen
I am more informed than you think. I listen to him regularly and he has preached many salvational messages and good Biblical teaching. Everyone has a different ministry and his is more postiive than most...God bless his heart!
Blessings, Rhoni
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08-03-2008, 07:48 PM
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Re: Interesting Article on Joel Osteen
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Yes, that was very noble of him...of course his church bought the sufficient number (in the hundreds of thousands) of books so that it would make the NY Times Best Sellers list, which got him where he is today.
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Yep, how do you think an unknown with his first book rose so quickly? But it is a fact, I believe the initial order was around 200,000. Now, understand, this is not uncommon. Many books get on the list this way and while I am sure the members bought copies also, the corporation bought the bulk.
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It is a fact?
What evidence do you have of this. I'd love to see it.
If you don't have any evidence to support this claim, then it is just hearsay at this point, an unsubstantiated rumor.
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Do the research you'll find out.
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Well, by you saying that, I'm assuming that you have done the research then.
Have you done so?
If so, kindly present your evidence to us, so we can come to an informed conclusion.
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08-03-2008, 07:58 PM
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Re: Interesting Article on Joel Osteen
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Originally Posted by Rhoni
I am more informed than you think. I listen to him regularly and he has preached many salvational messages and good Biblical teaching. Everyone has a different ministry and his is more positive than most...God bless his heart!
Blessings, Rhoni
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Rhoni, you seem to think highly of the man.
I see you refer to him as being a man with "good biblical teaching".
So I have 2 quick questions for you:
What do you think of his comments regarding Jews, Muslims and Atheists getting into heaven?
....and what do you think of his comments regarding Mormons being "true Christians" ?
(the YouTube videos with his comments are above)
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Daniel 12:3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars for ever.
I'm T France, and I approved this message.
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08-03-2008, 08:35 PM
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Re: Interesting Article on Joel Osteen
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These comments are so uninformed as to be comical...Joel Olsteen doesn't preach at all...he is the single clearest example of the all too common, non-scriptural, feel-good speaker...in essence...everybody, let's feel good...everybody let's not say anything troubling...everybody, let's join hands...in corporate happiness while the world goes whirling around without hearing the wonderful good news of Jesus Christ...
...the Olsteen principle is not new...yea, it is ancient...and is defined by the longstanding, humorous adage...a ministry of "see no evil; hear no evil; speak no evil..."
...no power...no anointing...no nothing...
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I have heard that in fact the worship team at his church is anointed.
Maybe it would be good for more Pentecostal preachers to speak plainly more often than they do.
Maybe it would be good for more Pentecostal saints to sit and actually listen to what the preacher is saying instead of "amening" themselves into an emotional frenzy that results in an unchanged life dependent on that next "Pentecostal high" for any semblance of deliverance.
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08-03-2008, 08:39 PM
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Re: Interesting Article on Joel Osteen
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I have heard that in fact the worship team at his church is anointed.
Maybe it would be good for more Pentecostal preachers to speak plainly more often than they do.
Maybe it would be good for more Pentecostal saints to sit and actually listen to what the preacher is saying instead of "amening" themselves into an emotional frenzy that results in an unchanged life dependent on that next "Pentecostal high" for any semblance of deliverance.
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Oh, please...as if we haven't researched this guy????!!!!! Please....
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08-03-2008, 08:40 PM
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Re: Interesting Article on Joel Osteen
His own words and teachings speak to his lack of biblical knowledge or anointing...
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08-03-2008, 08:44 PM
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Re: Interesting Article on Joel Osteen
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Originally Posted by 1399
Maybe it would be good for more Pentecostal preachers to speak plainly more often than they do.
Maybe it would be good for more Pentecostal saints to sit and actually listen to what the preacher is saying instead of "amening" themselves into an emotional frenzy that results in an unchanged life dependent on that next "Pentecostal high" for any semblance of deliverance.
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"Speaking plainly" is a good thing , but shouldn't sound doctrine be a factor in this ?
Or is sound doctrine not so important nowadays?
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Daniel 12:3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars for ever.
I'm T France, and I approved this message.
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08-03-2008, 08:55 PM
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Re: Interesting Article on Joel Osteen
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"Speaking plainly" is a good thing , but shouldn't sound doctrine be a factor in this ?
Or is sound doctrine not so important nowadays?
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Sound doctrine is the major factor. My comment was multi-directional:
Osteen may very well be anointed, maybe we're biased as to what "anointed" looks and sounds like;
More preachers should speak plainly the sound doctrine of the Word of God as deception is rampant;
More people should listen carefully to their preachers, to ensure they are in the truth of God's Word;
The speaking plainly and the careful listening needs to happen more often in our churches, IMHO.
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08-03-2008, 09:00 PM
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Re: Interesting Article on Joel Osteen
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Originally Posted by 1399
Sound doctrine is the major factor. My comment was multi-directional:
Osteen may very well be anointed, maybe we're biased as to what "anointed" looks and sounds like;
More preachers should speak plainly the sound doctrine of the Word of God as deception is rampant;
More people should listen carefully to their preachers, to ensure they are in the truth of God's Word;
The speaking plainly and the careful listening needs to happen more often in our churches, IMHO.
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Since Joel Osteen is the subject of his thread, do you consider him to be a man grounded in sound doctrine, and a solid knowledge of the Word of God?
...or, to use your words, do you consider him to be one who "speaks plainly the sound doctrine of the Word of God"?
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Daniel 12:3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars for ever.
I'm T France, and I approved this message.
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08-03-2008, 09:02 PM
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Re: Interesting Article on Joel Osteen
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Rhoni, you seem to think highly of the man.
I see you refer to him as being a man with "good biblical teaching".
So I have 2 quick questions for you:
What do you think of his comments regarding Jews, Muslims and Atheists getting into heaven?
....and what do you think of his comments regarding Mormons being "true Christians" ?
(the YouTube videos with his comments are above) |
To be honest, I have never heard such comments; so until I do I will refrain from a comment.
Blessings, Rhoni
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