Argument why Jesus had facial hair?

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by cneasttx

Berk, is this argument implying Jesus shaved before he was taken before Pilate and Herod? And the only reason he had a beard when he died is because he did not have the means to shave?

YES!

[Brad Murphy]

If only he would have had an overnight bag...

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

YES!

Everybody's heard that nonsense before. Why are you asking?

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Rico

Everybody's heard that nonsense before. Why are you asking?

Because I found this in the bible that I believe refutes it! durr.

[U376977]

Originally Posted by Sam

I can't think of any verse from the KJV that definitely says that Jesus had a beard. A verse that has been used is Isaiah 50:6 which says:
I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting. (KJV)
or
I gave My back to those who struck Me,
And My cheeks to those who plucked out the beard;
I did not hide My face from shame and spitting. (NKJV)

That verse is usually considered to be a prophecy of Jesus and the way He suffered.

I have not personally heard any preacher say so, but I have heard that some preachers have preached that Jesus did not have a beard, but since He had been arrested after having dinner with His disciples He had not shaved for a few hours and what was referred to there was the Roman soldiers using tweezers to pull out some beard stubble that was several hours old.

My ALJC pastor said in his Sunday night sermon "The Bible says that a man is supposed to be clean shaven." When I left after the service I did not come back again except as a visitor a couple of times years later.

Sam, Could it mean that he was clean shaven, expect for the sideburns? Were not the Jewish men forbidden to cut their sideburns. I see the modern Hasidic with the curls??

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Sam

I can't think of any verse from the KJV that definitely says that Jesus had a beard. A verse that has been used is Isaiah 50:6 which says:
I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting. (KJV)
or
I gave My back to those who struck Me,
And My cheeks to those who plucked out the beard;
I did not hide My face from shame and spitting. (NKJV)

That verse is usually considered to be a prophecy of Jesus and the way He suffered.

Definitely...
1... Without question the passage is prophetic, and is referring to Jesus. I don't believe one can make an informed argument that it's not.
2... Clearly from context the hair (KJV) is referring to the hair on his (Jesus') cheeks... which is why most modern versions correctly refer to it in Is 50:6 as the "beard".

Originally Posted by Sam

My ALJC pastor said in his Sunday night sermon "The Bible says that a man is supposed to be clean shaven." When I left after the service I did not come back again except as a visitor a couple of times years later.

When I hear preachers say blatantly un-biblical stuff like that, I cant help it -- but their credibility is seriously damaged, in my mind. From that point on, it makes me begin to wonder how much prayer and study they put into their sermons, and I have to now seriously filter anything I hear them say in the future... (if I even let myself listen to them again, that is).

Originally Posted by Sam

I have not personally heard any preacher say so, but I have heard that some preachers have preached that Jesus did not have a beard, but since He had been arrested after having dinner with His disciples He had not shaved for a few hours and what was referred to there was the Roman soldiers using tweezers to pull out some beard stubble that was several hours old.

Its a shame the extent men will go to, to distort the word of God to support & justify the non-biblical stuff they want to impose on God's people.

That stuff can get to the point where, to my mind , that stuff becomes not just intellectually dishonest, but just it's just straight-up dishonest, plain and simple.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

Because I found this in the bible that I believe refutes it! durr.

Just do a study on beards, Bro. It won't take you long. Probly can knock it out in one sitting. There is zero scripture against beards and plenty in favor of them. durr.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Rico

Just do a study on beards, Bro. It won't take you long. Probly can knock it out in one sitting. There is zero scripture against beards and plenty in favor of them. durr.

I only wanted to refute the one argument.

[freeatlast]

The stance, taken by the majority of our O/P pastors, that men be clean shaven, that they have no facial hair, like many of our "holiness standards" is just more HAIR-esy.

Strongly enforced customs and traditions that they claim have scriptural support, to which I say HOOYEY.

I have, for the last year or so, worn a mustache and chin whiskers.

I wear it in memeory of the men and their families that WE have run out of our churches over this stupidity.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

I have, for the last year or so, worn a mustache and chin whiskers.

I wear it in memeory of the men and their families that WE have run out of our churches over this stupidity.

Its a bit scary to consider that we have indeed run many off from our churches over this... likely with eternal consequences too. So unnecessary. and so sad.