Bush OK's Execution of Army Death Row Prisoner

[Ferd]

.... jsut a thought....

It IS shark week on discovery channel.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Ferd

.... jsut a thought....

It IS shark week on discovery channel.

Thanks for the reminder!!!!

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by U376977

Or how about the hundreds of thousands of Africans who have starved to death. Some caught in wars that force them from their homes. Others hacked to death.
Why did God allow it? Why is God full of judgement? What are his flashpoints that cause him to smite?

The way the world really works is miles apart from how OPs and other Pentecostals imagine or wish it worked. It seems to work exactly as if God keeps His hands off. Good things happen to good and bad people. Bad things happen to good and bad people. Imaginary miracles happen all the time. (You may agree, even if you think there is also the real thing, sometimes.) People brag about God's goodness and protection, when good things happen or when sickness or accidents are not as bad as they might have been (which is nearly always the case, anyway).

Does God protect His children? Does He watch over them? When a little girl is molested by a prominent man of the church, was God watching? Does He stand by and watch as a believer dies of cancer, despite the desperate prayers of his loved ones?

Oh, but God knows what we need better than we do. His ways are not our ways. We can't question Him.

Well, I am not questioning or complaining to God. But anyone who says they believe the Bible is God's infallible word has to wonder: does God really keep His word? (How can you tell if He does or not?) Is He actually good, no matter what He does?

[U376977]

Originally Posted by Timmy

The way the world really works is miles apart from how OPs and other Pentecostals imagine or wish it worked. It seems to work exactly as if God keeps His hands off. Good things happen to good and bad people. Bad things happen to good and bad people. Imaginary miracles happen all the time. (You may agree, even if you think there is also the real thing, sometimes.) People brag about God's goodness and protection, when good things happen or when sickness or accidents are not as bad as they might have been (which is nearly always the case, anyway).

Does God protect His children? Does He watch over them? When a little girl is molested by a prominent man of the church, was God watching? Does He stand by and watch as a believer dies of cancer, despite the desperate prayers of his loved ones?

Oh, but God knows what we need better than we do. His ways are not our ways. We can't question Him.

Well, I am not questioning or complaining to God. But anyone who says they believe the Bible is God's infallible word has to wonder: does God really keep His word? (How can you tell if He does or not?) Is He actually good, no matter what He does?

Sounds like you are agnostic?

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by U376977

Sounds like you are agnostic?

Sorta. Agnostic/deist, pretty much.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Now there's a good point. And tell the Egyptian families that lost their firstborn during the night. Or the young Midianite girls whose mothers, fathers, and brothers were slaughtered by God's orders, then became spoils of war.

Very good point.

It is tough to reconcile all of the attributes of God. It is only natural we want to concentrate on his mercy and love but don't forget the Bible says he is also a "jealous" God.

Interesting that he reserves the right to be something we are not suppoesd to be - jealous!

We also tend to not dwell on his wrath, ultimate justice, etc but all of those components are there.

Gods ultimate expression of love and Mercy was providing a way of salvation for man through Jesus Christ and the New Covenant but I don't think he will have any second thoughts about the fate that awaits those who do not avail themselves of that pathway.