A Word of Caution

[Light]

Originally Posted by Ron

What Double Standard PP???
Has anyone called him a heretic?
Has anyone said that he was teaching heresy?While I have heard him espouse a lot of things strangely un apostolic at times here, I have called him to task on the thoughts & never once said he was a heretic.

Apples & Oranges.

Is telling someone they are saved at repentance heresy?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Light

Is telling someone they are saved at repentance heresy?

Only among Catholics, JW's, Mormons and some OP's.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Light

Is telling someone they are saved at repentance heresy?

Uh oh! Hijack alert! Hijack alert!

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Sis. Esther,

You are indeed a woman of God. This is done in the spirit of love and good judgement.

For those who disagree: Esther is not making a connection with LS as being on the level with God. What she is saying is that there are right ways to go about confronting a brother or sister about something you disagree with.
This is a caution to make sure one is careful to do things God's way. It is my understanding that going to the person one on one would be the first step.

I love Esther and DA, both are my friends and there is nothing inappropriate here.

Blessings, Rhoni

Thank you, glad someone understood my intentions.

We all have disagreements with men and women of God, but we ALL must be very careful in how we deal with our disagreements.

I believe IF we don't handle it right, it can affect the way God will use us in His ministry.

Thanks Mark!

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Light

Is telling someone they are saved at repentance heresy?

well, I guess that depends on how that is attached.... It is within what one could call the Pale of Ortodoxy among Apostolics to say that one is saved at repentance and that all saved people should be baptized as a witness to the work of Christ, in His name and they should recieve the Holy Ghost.

I believe that is Dan's posistion. I dont agree with it, I cannot seperate Peters injunction like that. But this teaching has been part of the Apostolic movement from its inception. (Did I spell inception right?)

[DividedThigh]

doing fine ferd

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

LOL! No, she isn't saying that, at all.

The discussion is deeper than LS. It is how we represent the body of Christ in our conversations about issues. At least that's what I believe she is saying and I agree.

I believe in studying the scriptures for what they are. You can't come out ahead bashing people's personalities, traits, or character. JMHO.

My take on it is - What if a confused person stumbled across some of these references in Google? I would have to say that some of the conversations are not representative of what the church is called to be.

II Timothy 2:24 "And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,.."

Matthew 10:16 "...be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."

Exactly!

[DividedThigh]

i understood your intention esther and considered it soulfully compasionate toward the young among us, dt

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

First of all, stated disagreement - whether written or oral - with a person's ideology is not inherently sinful, disrespectful or profane.

Second, LS is not God, does not in any way represent the manifest presence of God (as the ark did), and should not be elevated as an equal to such holy things. The man is not above question. Especially when the doctrine he espouses is patently false and dangerous.

Third, an open rebuke on a public forum directed toward a poster who is himself a minister is an example of the very problem Esther takes issue with in the first place.

PP I'm really amazed you couldn't understand the intent of my post.

First of all no where did I imply that any person is equal to the Ark. I am glad that most understood the principal the Lord gave me last night.

1. That the man saw the Ark about to fall.
2. His intentions were good in not wanting the Ark to fall.
3. He touched what God said NOT to touch!

This was not to single out DA but to make sure he read it because HE is the one that kept repeately coming to my mind during service last night.

I know DA gets on some folks nerves, but I believe he is young and intelligent and has a lot to offer. It was not to cast stones at him, but to try and help him, but not only him but ALL of US.

And just for consideration, if we want to discuss the issues then why do we name names? Or can we honestly say it is more than the ISSUES?

[Esther]

Originally Posted by DividedThigh

i understood your intention esther and considered it soulfully compasionate toward the young among us, dt

Thank you DT. I appreciate that.