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Old 06-30-2008, 04:01 PM
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so people who have lived godly lives, baptized in the titles and filled with the Holy Ghost will not be in Heaven?

how could they be filled with the Holy Ghost and still go to hell?
No one can be saved without remission of sins and NOT ONE person's sins have been remitted in the NT Church Age without being baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.
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Old 06-30-2008, 04:07 PM
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so people who have lived godly lives, baptized in the titles and filled with the Holy Ghost will not be in Heaven?

how could they be filled with the Holy Ghost and still go to hell?
Don't you understand that being filled with the Holy Ghost means nothing? You will still smell like smoke if you don't completely line up to all twenty or more things that are absolutely essential.

It's funny how God chooses you to be filled with his spirit, but later dis-owns you over a technicality! It's too bad that God, knowing how humans are, didn't spell out all of the twenty plus essential things together. I.E. "To enter heaven, you must fulfill the following:1. 2. 3. etc."
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Saved if they are pleasing the Lord in their walk.
Are you saved, and pleasing the Lord in your walk?

Will you be in Heaven?
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Are you saved, and pleasing the Lord in your walk?

Will you be in Heaven?
Yes if a person has obeyed the gospel and lived the life they will be in Heaven.
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Re: My Church is the Only One That is Right

How do you explain this verse?

Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

It seems to me that one can break a commandment and still make heaven!
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Old 06-30-2008, 04:25 PM
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How do you explain this verse?

Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

It seems to me that one can break a commandment and still make heaven!
True baptism is NOT a LEAST commandment but the ONLY way sins are remitted in the NT church age. ONLY through water baptism in Jesus Name can a man have his sins remitted and without remission of sins you CANNOT be saved.
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Re: My Church is the Only One That is Right

Elder Epley, Rico,

I don't believe the 2 of you to be like the self righteous types of Apostolics I have known in the past. But do the two of you find your self struggling with fighting self righteousness or even a little smugness with your faith?

Why is it that, as Apostolic, I have come to the point that I simply just don't believe that we will be the only ones in Heaven?

As I re read my last question, it just reads insane to me. Does that knowledge ever bother the 2 of you?
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True baptism is NOT a LEAST commandment but the ONLY way sins are remitted in the NT church age. ONLY through water baptism in Jesus Name can a man have his sins remitted and without remission of sins you CANNOT be saved.
What is an example of a least commandment?
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No one can be saved without remission of sins and NOT ONE person's sins have been remitted in the NT Church Age without being baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.
Although I ill only baptize someone in the name of Jesus Christ, I don't believe this statement.
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Rico,

But do the two of you find your self struggling with fighting self righteousness or even a little smugness with your faith?
Not at all. Simply put, that's the way I read the Bible. If I don't stand for what I believe what does that make me? Standing for what I believe doesn't make me self-righteous or smug, Brother.
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