Rico, We mixed it up the other day on politics---but I have got to completly agree with you here. You can pin-point a Trinitarian preacher in just a few minutes. My biggest irk is hearing a typical Baptist (my wife's family) start talking about Jn. 3:16, "God sent his son Jesus" and God loved us so much that he sent "Jesus." A oneness preacher may say similar statements--they are biblical--but when I preach I always say something like, "God loved the world so much that he clothed himself in flesh and came as the Son." You get the idea. I could not attend a Trinity church. But--I am not excited about a lot of oneness churches either. However, I am blessed to have a good one 2 miles from my home. But it seems like a lot of oneness/Apostolics fight over the most petty things that Trinity people just don't get that excited about. They just don't have the same silly DRAMA that goes on in OP churches.
Yes Oneness people fill the need to interpret the Scripture as they quote it. Trinitarians don't feel the need to establish the Trinity it’s not their identity.
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We talk a lot but seldom we really don´t know what we would do if placed in certain situations.
I don´t think I could feel a part of a trinity church for I am ONENESS all the way. However I will not made fun of them as some might. For where they lack the knowledge of oneness I am sure I lack knowledge in other areas of my life.
I would hate to be in a situation like that...some people get in old folks homes and the only services they can attend are those that come to them and that is generally trinity folks...
The many years I worked at a leper colony I NEVER MET ONE OTHER ONENESS GROUP THERE BUT I did meet Assembly of God and other trinity folks in the colony. So dear oneness folks, where are we when someone needs us? That too should be considered...
If our religion is so important (and everyone knows I think it is) but why are we so long in getting out and reaching our cities and our world?
I have met many sincere trinity folks along my journey. Some I feel I helped to understand God in a deeper way...I was helped by them in other ways. Some people that say they are trinity believe like we do...I have found some of those too...
I once slept with the nuns in a hut in a cannibal Indian village...I sure did not meet any of my oneness friends there...
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Yes Oneness people fill the need to interpret the Scripture as they quote it. Trinitarians don't feel the need to establish the Trinity it’s not their identity.
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Originally Posted by ReformedDave
Can you elaborate?
Sure, to Oneness believers that is the cornerstone of everything they believe. It is laced into virtually everything they say. When they read a passage about the Son of God or God sending His Son they feel the need to explain it so that it fits. To a Trinitarian the doctrine of the Trinity is just a part of their over all belief system it’s not the main thing. I have been in several Trinitarian churches and heard them pray in Jesus name. Rarely do they make statements that take Scripture and conform it to a Trinitarian ideology. Occasional this happens but not as often as most Oneness folks like to think.
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Can a oneness believer make it to Heaven on a trinitarian pew? There is a sad situation in my city in which I will spare the details. But I just talked to a young man who has had his fill and is leaving his church this week-end.
During lunch I expressed my concern about his choice of churches and he replied that he was fully aware that it was a trinitarian church but that he knew for a fact that there were other oneness believers that attend.
He said he was solid in his beliefs and planned on attending.
Anybody ever been in this type of situation....meaning believing oneness and attending trinity? We do use trinitarian material to teach and preach from at times. We read books written by trinitarians and gleen from them.
Can we sit on there pews and not waver and yet still be fed and grow?
Absolutely! Beyond a shadow of a doubt! Without question! Of course they can! I could attend any church where God was even though they weren't right on every single thing in the Bible.
Hey, come to think of it, I pastor a church like that. Just not trinitarian though.
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Absolutely! Beyond a shadow of a doubt! Without question! Of course they can! I could attend any church where God was even though they weren't right on every single thing in the Bible.
Hey, come to think of it, I pastor a church like that. Just not trinitarian though.
On the other hand---
Some Trinitarians are SO SO SO Trinity (we have at least two here in Charlotte) that they are two/three gods. When they worship the "Father" they think of him as another being --apart from Jesus. That friends is Arianisam and the worship of another god. For a truely oneness person to sit in the midst of that kind of idolatry and be comfortable seems impossible.
Some Trinitarians are SO SO SO Trinity (we have at least two here in Charlotte) that they are two/three gods. When they worship the "Father" they think of him as another being --apart from Jesus. That friends is Arianisam and the worship of another god. For a truely oneness person to sit in the midst of that kind of idolatry and be comfortable seems impossible.
Arianism denies that the Son is Devine.
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I think a saved person can go to a church that teaches false doctrine and be saved. or not go to church at all and be saved.
BUT if they have kids, their children will be what ever their environment is.
if your Apostolic to your core, but you choose to worship in a Baptist church, your children will be baptist. if you teach them the Apostolic message, and send them to a baptist sunday school, they will beleive your ACTIONS more than they believe your WORDS.
that is what I think. Peace to you all.
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TR have you ever read a book by a trinitarian and gleened from it?
I think we all have.
But gleaning from a book written by a Trinitarian is a lot different from attending a Trinitarian church.
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I'm not going down that road, Kutless.
No Trinitarian will ever be my pastor. That is a non-negotiable issue for me.
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