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06-03-2008, 12:14 AM
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Forever Loved Admin
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Texas
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Re: Lavish Lifestyle Ministry Spending
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Originally Posted by Rico
Ahh shuddup already, ya troublemaker!
Actually, I've heard people make that argument before. They say the government uses the threat of taking away the tax exempt status to keep preachers from using the pulpit for political reasons. Doesn't seem to stop some preachers though. Where there's a will there is a way!
Reminds me of the pastor I had during the Bush/Gore campaign battle. He never actually endorsed either candidate. He did, however, say, "If things go the wrong way, it could get pretty gorey. I'm hoping God sets another bush on fire!" Pretty slick, huh?
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Sounds about right Rico.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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06-03-2008, 12:23 AM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Nunya bidness
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Re: Lavish Lifestyle Ministry Spending
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Originally Posted by Sherri
It's all a matter of the heart. I think you can have nice things if you are in balance, which is the key to every part of our lives. Personally I wouldn't want to be led by a pastor who was always broke and wondering where his next meal was coming from. Pastors are notorious for being bad money managers; we have fought hard to prove this wrong.
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Been there, done that, and ain't gonna do it again! I believe the ministry needs to lead by example. If the church isn't generating enough income for the pastor to keep the water on, keep his phone on, keep the electricity on, make his house payment, keep gas in his car, stay off foodstamps and other forms of governmental support, THEN HE NEEDS TO GO OUT AND GET A JOB! Ya heard me?
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06-03-2008, 08:49 AM
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Jerry Moon
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Borger Texas
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Re: Lavish Lifestyle Ministry Spending
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
So Mark, What salary cap do you think the Pastor should have??
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I'm more concerned about what the minimum is right now... is there a minimum? I think I'm below it if there is... my work is volenteer...
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06-03-2008, 08:55 AM
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Smiles everyone...Smiles!!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Sparta, TN
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Re: Lavish Lifestyle Ministry Spending
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Originally Posted by Joelel
Your a false accuser of God's people.
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Can you not take a joke???
This smilie definitely fits here.
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06-03-2008, 10:17 AM
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I believe the Gospel of Jesus
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: North end of DFW Airport
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Re: Lavish Lifestyle Ministry Spending
I don't think a Jag is too much car to drive, I drive a 40K pick up. If I drove a car I'd buy an S Type Jag.
AS for being a bad witness, that's in the eye of the beholder. My daddy owns the cattle on a thousand hills and the gold in the hills also.
What about Britney, fidity-cent, foo-daddy and Paris? They don't care what you think of their lifestyles.
Most church people don't even understand what God has provided for His chidren. They mostly have a poverty image. Poverty is one of the curses of the law. Christ has redeemed me from the curse of the law.
Not bragging but my giving is directly proportional to my lifestyle.
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The Gospel of Jesus Christ: Jesus bore away my sins, my sickness, and my poverty. That covers it all. Everything else is just legalism.
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06-03-2008, 11:33 AM
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Jerry Moon
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Borger Texas
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Re: Lavish Lifestyle Ministry Spending
I drive a Harley, it's a lot more expensive than a Jap bike. I don't think it's to much though. It's like being baptized in Jesus Name, it's all in the name...
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06-03-2008, 06:17 PM
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Christmas 2009
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Jackson, TN
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Re: Lavish Lifestyle Ministry Spending
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Originally Posted by Revelationist
I drive a Harley, it's a lot more expensive than a Jap bike. I don't think it's to much though. It's like being baptized in Jesus Name, it's all in the name...
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I am really missing the Harley these past few weeks!!! It was a fun four years.
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06-03-2008, 06:18 PM
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Christmas 2009
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Jackson, TN
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Re: Lavish Lifestyle Ministry Spending
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Originally Posted by Bro-Larry
I don't think a Jag is too much car to drive, I drive a 40K pick up. If I drove a car I'd buy an S Type Jag.
AS for being a bad witness, that's in the eye of the beholder. My daddy owns the cattle on a thousand hills and the gold in the hills also.
What about Britney, fidity-cent, foo-daddy and Paris? They don't care what you think of their lifestyles.
Most church people don't even understand what God has provided for His chidren. They mostly have a poverty image. Poverty is one of the curses of the law. Christ has redeemed me from the curse of the law.
Not bragging but my giving is directly proportional to my lifestyle.
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Well, my Jag is not new by any means, but it's nice and it's fun. Mine is an X-type Vanden Plas, black and sleek. I hope it runs for ten more years!!
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06-04-2008, 04:20 PM
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Banned
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Tx.
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Re: Lavish Lifestyle Ministry Spending
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
Can you not take a joke???
This smilie definitely fits here.
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Maybe you should try sticking to the rules. Many times a joke is taken seriously and insults.That's why it's a sin.
Eph.5
[1] Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
[2] And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
[3] But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
[4] Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
[5] For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
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06-04-2008, 06:10 PM
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Administrator
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 16,840
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Re: Lavish Lifestyle Ministry Spending
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Originally Posted by Sherri
Well, my Jag is not new by any means, but it's nice and it's fun. Mine is an X-type Vanden Plas, black and sleek. I hope it runs for ten more years!!
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Are you sure it is an X type Vanden Plas? I thought the Vanden Plas was an eidition of the XJ series?
The X is the little jag.
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