What does that mean, shamed in that culture, shamed before God? Something else?
We know biblically that the women of Israel shaved their heads in mourning and when completing the Nazarite vow. When the vow was complete, they shaved their heads at the steps of the temple.
We also know from history, that the temple prostitutes in Corinth were bald and bisexual. Whatever Paul is telling them is in context to what was going on in the pagan temples and attempting to seep into the church.
We know biblically that the women of Israel shaved their heads in mourning and when completing the Nazarite vow. When the vow was complete, they shaved their heads at the steps of the temple.
We also know from history, that the temple prostitutes in Corinth were bald and bisexual. Whatever Paul is telling them is in context to what was going on in the pagan temples and attempting to seep into the church.
But it seems to be more popular to view this out of context and make all different kinds of excuses for untruths.
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bottom line DG, vs 16 covers it. But if anyone wants to argue about this, I simply say that we have no other custom than this, and neither do God’s other churches.
vs. 1 says "ordanances. vs 16 ends the discussion. As far as I am concerned, there is no debate. Paul taught the Corinthian church the same thing that was taught in all the churches regardless of thier culture. the teaching stands. period. end of story.
men have short hair
women have long hair.
anything more or less than that is more or less than what the bible says.
what is so difficult about this?
I don't see it as that simple. No other place in Scripture even hints at this, and in fact Samuel and Samson maybe Elijah, all had long hair. God made provision for Israelite women to shave their head when taking a vow. This just doesn't add up.
vs. 15 still provides the key to understanding what paul was talking about.
Wouldn't you agree though, its hard to make an argument that a women's hair is her veil? These are two separate words and used in different context.
We know of only one place biblically that a "veil" is mentioned and that is with Rebekkah and as a bride. We really don't have any biblical reference to women wearing veils. We do know from other writings including the Talmud, the Jews prayed with the prayer shawl, including the men as they still do to this day.
But it seems to be more popular to view this out of context and make all different kinds of excuses for untruths.
well, surely there are 2 groups that go too far.
those that demand any cutting is a sin and will send a woman to hell, and those that have decided this passage does not extend past the church in Corinth.
both are wrong IMHO.
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those that demand any cutting is a sin and will send a woman to hell, and those that have decided this passage does not extend past the church in Corinth.
both are wrong IMHO.
I would agree, the problem I see is that we struggle to know exactly what was going on there, and it just isn't that clear from the passage.
Wouldn't you agree though, its hard to make an argument that a women's hair is her veil? These are two separate words and used in different context.
We know of only one place biblically that a "veil" is mentioned and that is with Rebekkah and as a bride. We really don't have any biblical reference to women wearing veils. We do know from other writings including the Talmud, the Jews prayed with the prayer shawl, including the men as they still do to this day.
No I wouldnt agree. Paul says that God gave a woman her hair as her covering. I dont agree that the context is different. it is the same discussion.
different word yes, but in the end Paul speaks of the hair. period. it cant be more complicated than that.
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I would agree, the problem I see is that we struggle to know exactly what was going on there, and it just isn't that clear from the passage.
Baron, i think we can complicate just about anything. I just dont think things are nearly as complicated as we make them.
the problem isnt with Paul. it is with us. we ask things like "what is long?" "what is short?" "Please define shorn exactly?" "why are these words not exactly the same?"
we get all messeed up not realizing the simplicity of scripture.
men short
women long
(Let the holy ghost direct the saved on how they deal with the passage.)
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Baron, i think we can complicate just about anything. I just dont think things are nearly as complicated as we make them.
the problem isnt with Paul. it is with us. we ask things like "what is long?" "what is short?" "Please define shorn exactly?" "why are these words not exactly the same?"
we get all messeed up not realizing the simplicity of scripture.
men short
women long
(Let the holy ghost direct the saved on how they deal with the passage.)
huh, mmmm, common sense, rare, lol,dt
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