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Old 03-18-2007, 02:07 PM
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You know what is amazing to me? You don't hear folks from our side of the issue threatening to leave the UPCI, but you do from your side. It is kind of like if it don't go my way, I will take my ball and go home. I say go!
What about those who left in 92 over the AS????????????????????
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Old 03-18-2007, 02:11 PM
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What about those who left in 92 over the AS????????????????????
I don't agree with them either. This organization has changed many things over the years. Some for the better, some perhaps for worse. But the answer is not leaving. You cannot change anytihing from the outside looking in.
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Old 03-18-2007, 02:13 PM
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I don't agree with them either. This organization has changed many things over the years. Some for the better, some perhaps for worse. But the answer is not leaving. You cannot change anytihing from the outside looking in.

How could someone in good conscious sign something they don't believe? Isn't that lying? In 1992 another minister told my pastor to sign it and repent of it later. My pastor chose not to sign.
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Old 03-18-2007, 02:40 PM
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How could someone in good conscious sign something they don't believe? Isn't that lying? In 1992 another minister told my pastor to sign it and repent of it later. My pastor chose not to sign.
Aside from the TV issue, do you believe that all ministers that sign the AS preach and believe everything in the articles of faith? Do some go to Six Flags? Branson? Etc. That is a worldly amusement isn't it? Just wondering.

The manual says "all worldly sports and amusements"
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Aside from the TV issue, do you believe that all ministers that sign the AS preach and believe everything in the articles of faith? Do some go to Six Flags? Branson? Etc. That is a worldly amusement isn't it? Just wondering.

The manual says "all worldly sports and amusements"
Is the Internet amusement?

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Old 03-18-2007, 02:49 PM
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Is the Internet amusement?

That's a thought
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Old 03-18-2007, 02:56 PM
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Aside from the TV issue, do you believe that all ministers that sign the AS preach and believe everything in the articles of faith? Do some go to Six Flags? Branson? Etc. That is a worldly amusement isn't it? Just wondering.

The manual says "all worldly sports and amusements"
Honestly, I don't know what is in the articles of faith. Those who sign something they say they adhere to but don't ...must give account of their actions to God.
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Old 03-18-2007, 03:01 PM
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Honestly, I don't know what is in the articles of faith. Those who sign something they say they adhere to but don't ...must give account of their actions to God.
That is the problem! We want to zero in on one thing when in reality I personally don't know anyone who follows the manual to the crossing of the T and dotting of the I. Our problem is inconsistency!
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I don't agree with them either. This organization has changed many things over the years. Some for the better, some perhaps for worse. But the answer is not leaving. You cannot change anytihing from the outside looking in.
I hope preachers at least hold on until the conference vote on TV! If you leave, you can't vote!
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