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Old 04-14-2008, 07:29 PM
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Re: Another reason NOT to vote for Obama

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The system is so corrupt those who vote for either party are implicant in the destruction of America. The only real answer is to preach THE KINGDOM and make a total break from these parties in the name of all that is Holy. Imagine if the first church would have sided with one Roman political group over another? Or imagine if the Christians began supporting the Zealots, Pharisees, or Sadducees expect these parties to save society? No. Christians made a complete break dwelling under the wicked system without being part of it. More Christians today side with the DNC or the RNC more than G-O-D. Then they let the POLITICS of THIS WORLD divide BROTHERS and SISTERS. America is DOOMED as long as the Church keeps whoring around with worldly political parties like some drunken prostitute.

I'm constantly hearing the "vote for the lesser of two evils" line. What makes us think that we are so married to this corrupt system that we feel we have to vote for ANY evil?

Instead of taking a stand for a political party...why not take a stand for Christ?

well, i would not vote (i'm still considering it) but if christians didn't vote we would basically be casting a vote for obama. Please don't get me wrong, I can't stand McCain, but the fact that Al-Jeezra, the Palestinian Authority, and radical muslims around the world support a so-called "christian" who supposedly shuns the koran and islam is a huge red flag for me. If it was between clinton and mccain, i don't think I could care less. Talk about tweedly dee and tweedly dumb. Ron Paul was the best candidate, he was radical, but at least he was completely upfront and open about his policies. Who doesn't want a president that wants to prevent a national/international ID, abolish the IRS, cause the value of the dollar to go up, instead of down, leave the united nations, etc. Obviously all of things can't happen with one president, and some probably will never happen. But I don't get how someone could go for mccain or obama, or hilary over Paul, I am obviously in the minority.
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Old 04-14-2008, 07:35 PM
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The Bible uses the word "whore" in relation to Mystery Babylon. But we've become more "conservative" than God in our right wing version of political correctness. Even language God uses in the Holy Bible is too much for us to deal with. Several times God uses the term for Israel in the Old Testament. What's happened to us? I know men who won't read the word "a-s-s", instead they say, "donkey", when reading various passages in the Bible. We've really become a real piece of work. What happened to our guts? It's like we're little girls hiking our dresses up at anything that we think is "improper". Give me a break Jake. LOL

Oh well.

So ManOfWord, you going Constitution Party or Democrat?
Neither. Like I said....Independent!!! I could NEVER stomach the DNC and the RNC........well.....I guess that's why I pastor an independent church as well. I can just get the job done without the politics of denomination!
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Old 04-14-2008, 07:38 PM
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It would be interesting to see what he can do for our country
More like what he does TO our country.
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Old 04-14-2008, 07:39 PM
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Re: Another reason NOT to vote for Obama

Who is the Constitution Party candidate this election?
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Old 04-14-2008, 10:13 PM
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Reverend...can you show me where "radical Muslims" support him? I know of some Palestinian folks who support him. Primarily because they believe that Islamic extremists prey on young impressionable Arab youth indoctrinating them in the ways of Islamic extremism. They pray for an American President that can end the military actions and engage the issues that those living in the Middle East are facing at the negotiation table. The more we unilaterally invade and bomb them, the more the Islamic extremists recruit their youth to be pawns in their bloody war. War begets war....violence begets violence. We need someone with the manhood to do some serious diplomacy.
I think it is pretty radical when muslims are making calls to americans asking for their support of this man.
The muslim extremists as I recall attacked us at 911. Have you forgotten that already? We retaliated and war began. To say that war begets war is to say that we are wrong to fight back when attacked. I disagree.
The issues in the ME have shifted from what they were before, at least in the public eye.
I can not honestly say that I support it any longer.
I do not believe however that a candidate that is supported there is necessarily good for America. Their whole worldview is 180 out from ours. Surely you agree with that.
Their whole stated purpose in life is to eradicate anyone who opposes Islam. They don't have to be radical to feel this way. I have spoken with many muslims over the years and they are convinced that their way is the only way and all others are infidel, yours included. That should make you pause and reconsider your support of someone who is so anti-american that he won't even wear an american flag during his campaign, especially in light of the fact that he is popular in the ME.
That should throw up warning flags to all of America.
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Old 04-14-2008, 10:50 PM
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Obama is a dangerous man.

Very dangerous.

He seems to have no ethical or moral moorings.

His comments last week were beyond acceptable.
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:08 AM
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Obama is a dangerous man.

Very dangerous.

He seems to have no ethical or moral moorings.

His comments last week were beyond acceptable.
This is totally true. Politics aside, I cannot fathom anyone posting on this form thinking that this man would be good for America. He does not possess even one redeeming quality.

Nothing he has said or done in his political career is worthy of praise or admiration. Every public comment and action has been self serving and his arrogance is disgusting. His popularity is embarrassing to any truly informed American. I can only hope that defense of him, his actions, or his rhetoric can be attributed to youthful stupidity.

Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and
any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:15 AM
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You'll have to prove it to me, brother. I am one of the bitter people in small towns clinging to religion and my guns.
I'm not small town but I'm with ya

No way I wanna become a little sheet head.
or in my case a big sheet head
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:17 AM
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I think my ignorant, small minded, religous right, moral preaching values are gonna start showing soon.
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Old 04-15-2008, 06:44 AM
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"More than ever, it seems, proactive support and interest in the U.S. presidential election is flourishing in the unlikeliest of places."

Yeah, like Gaza, sure I believe he has no muslim ties. wink, wink.
Don't you know that we live in a world where American policy affects far more than just America. If a group of foreign individuals feel a Presidential candidate will address some of the issues they face with American foreign policy they will likely support him. This doesn't mean he has Muslim ties. When making accusations....you have to offer proof.
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