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Old 04-12-2008, 01:07 PM
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Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?

There have been some excellent responses to this thread. Thank you all!

My understanding is that baptizing in the name of "Christ the Lord" would be no different than baptizing into the name of "the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost". Each formula is using titles instead of a proper name.

Like others have said, saying the name "Jesus" is not a magical formula. It's all about the authority for which you are baptized. It's not the exact words that are said, but by who's authority you are baptized into.

This is why I don't believe one will be judged by exactly what was said over them (third person) during baptism, as long as they are baptized into the authority of the God of the New Testament. Otherwise, we are held responsible to the actions of a third person. In other words, it's between you and God.
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Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?

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There have been some excellent responses to this thread. Thank you all!

My understanding is that baptizing in the name of "Christ the Lord" would be no different than baptizing into the name of "the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost". Each formula is using titles instead of a proper name.

Like others have said, saying the name "Jesus" is not a magical formula. It's all about the authority for which you are baptized. It's not the exact words that are said, but by who's authority you are baptized into.

This is why I don't believe one will be judged by exactly what was said over them (third person) during baptism, as long as they are baptized into the authority of the God of the New Testament. Otherwise, we are held responsible to the actions of a third person. In other words, it's between you and God.
Are you saying it doesn't matter what the baptizer says over the the person being baptized?
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There have been some excellent responses to this thread. Thank you all!

My understanding is that baptizing in the name of "Christ the Lord" would be no different than baptizing into the name of "the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost". Each formula is using titles instead of a proper name.

Like others have said, saying the name "Jesus" is not a magical formula. It's all about the authority for which you are baptized. It's not the exact words that are said, but by who's authority you are baptized into.

This is why I don't believe one will be judged by exactly what was said over them (third person) during baptism, as long as they are baptized into the authority of the God of the New Testament. Otherwise, we are held responsible to the actions of a third person. In other words, it's between you and God.

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Are you saying it doesn't matter what the baptizer says over the the person being baptized?
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I believe saying the name of Jesus in baptism is the correct way to baptize. But.......those who baptize using different words, but are baptizing into the authority of our Lord Jesus Christ, are not hell bound.

Otherwise, our salvation is in the hands of a third person. Does God require us to seek out someone who will use an exact formula, especially one that is not clearly stated as a formula in the bible?

For the record, I would never attend a church that didn't baptize in Jesus Name. I would be very uncomfortable because of the way I was raised. I'm just saying!
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Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?

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I believe saying the name of Jesus in baptism is the correct way to baptize. But.......those who baptize using different words, but are baptizing into the authority of our Lord Jesus Christ, are not hell bound.

Otherwise, our salvation is in the hands of a third person. Does God require us to seek out someone who will use an exact formula, especially one that is not clearly stated as a formula in the bible?

For the record, I would never attend a church that didn't baptize in Jesus Name. I would be very uncomfortable because of the way I was raised. I'm just saying!

We baptize in The name of Jesus Christ or the Lord Jess Christ...I don't remeber which.

I agree with PianoMan. God is not disqualifying a sincere believer on a technicality.

I apologize to those that this offends...please. don't write me any letters.
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Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?

Doesn't the word "Christ" mean "the anointed one"? That's what I've always heard and believed. So He was Jesus, the anointed One.
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that is right Sherri...the anointed One...
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Is "Jesus" the first name, and "Christ" the last name?

We all believe that "Father", "Son" and "Holy Ghost" are titles, but is "Christ" also a title? When we baptize in the name of Jesus Christ, are we saying his name and title?

From the Catholic Encyclopedia:

The name "Jesus" is an Anglicization of the Greek Ίησους (Iēsous), itself a Hellenization of the Hebrew יהושע (Yehoshua) or Hebrew-Aramaic ישוע (Yeshua), meaning "YHWH rescues". "Christ" is a title derived from the Greek Χριστός (Christós), meaning the "Anointed One," which corresponds to the Hebrew-derived "Messiah".[5]
The word Christ means anoointed.Christ is not part of Jesus name.They called him Jesus the anointed one or Jesus anointed one.Jesus anointed one of God.
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Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?

Christ is an epithet, meaning a descriptive term attached to a name. It is derived from the Hebrew word Mashiach, which is Messiah in English. But, when we look at the name that is used in Hebrew for Jesus, we have Yeshua Ha'Meshiach, or Jesus the Messiah/Christ. We simplify it by saying Jesus Christ.

Christ is not His last name, but is His description of who He is.
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Christ is an epithet, meaning a descriptive term attached to a name. It is derived from the Hebrew word Mashiach, which is Messiah in English. But, when we look at the name that is used in Hebrew for Jesus, we have Yeshua Ha'Meshiach, or Jesus the Messiah/Christ. We simplify it by saying Jesus Christ.

Christ is not His last name, but is His description of who He is.
OKAY where did my stir the pot smiley go????

But isn't this how many of us got our surname? Someone in your family tree was a blacksmith or a baker or cook and they called him or her John or Jane Cook, Baker, Smith, etc.. and many years later we now have Fred Smith and Clara Baker.
So why can't we consider Christ part of Jesus name? We know he was Jesus and we know he was annointed of God. So what is wrong with saying Jesus Christ. Thing is I never call someone by there full name when I refer to them unless I have to so that others no EXACTLY who I am talking about. So in Baptism why not say in the name of Jesus Christ? That is what Peter said we should do anyway isn't it?

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