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Old 03-26-2008, 03:21 PM
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Re: God created more then one male and female.

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Once again, as others have stated, this does not reconcile the fact that there were no daughters prior to Seth. Seth may have been a replacement for Abel, but the argument does not hold water that Seth was indeed the 3rd child. Women, for various reasons and their stature in the Old testament, were not mentioned. This even caries into the NT with the feeding of the 5000. It states there were 5000 men. No mention of the women or children.
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Old 03-26-2008, 03:22 PM
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We assume there were daughters, maybe many.
There could also have been sons, even many of them.

Cain and Abel were adults when they brought their offerings.
Maybe Eve considered her new little boy a replacement for her adult son, Abel.


Of course, we can come up with other ideas like maybe people landed on earth from other planets and that's who the one or two children of Adam and Eve married.
Or we can believe Adam's few children mated with animals and much of the population was from them.

Something not mentioned is that some believe that Eve was not Adam's first wife. They believe that his first wife was someone named Lillith and Eve was a replacement for her. Maybe Adam had children by Lilleth before he had children with Eve.
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Old 03-26-2008, 03:26 PM
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Paul seems to say so in Acts 17:26
Nope,we all have one blood but different races. Acts 17:26: And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
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Old 03-26-2008, 03:27 PM
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Re: God created more then one male and female.

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This scripture don't prove Adam and Eve had more children befor Cain found his wife.
It also doesn't prove they didn't, which is your claim.
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Old 03-26-2008, 03:30 PM
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You are right. Even IF there were other people on the earth, they would have been erradicated by the flood. Yet from Noah and his three sons, we have a variety of races today.
Nope,there were people of all races on the boat.Gen.6:19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee;they shall be male and female
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Old 03-26-2008, 03:32 PM
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You guys all have to realize too that just because it gives Cain's lineage and all the kids he had does not mean he had all those kids before Seth was born and had kids or before Adam and Eve had kids...
Once again,no scripture.
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Old 03-26-2008, 03:40 PM
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The sons of God in Gen 6 are sons of SETH and the daughters of men were children of Cain.

Adam and Eve were the first sons of God and all their descendents are sons of God.Sons of man are other races God created in Gen.1 along with Adam.Adam was taken and placed in the garden.He was the only one to be the father of Sons of God.Eve was the mother of all living,the sons of God.She was not the mother of sons of man.Sons of man are other races.
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Old 03-26-2008, 03:44 PM
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No scripture,give scripture please.
Scripture for how many people were on the earth? Do the math!

Adam died (and yes, I'm a math whiz) just 57 years after Noah was born. There were over half a million people on the earth when Noah started building the ark almost 500 years later. Noah was the last man to live as long as he did. His sons and those thereafter didn't live much longer than 120.

Adam through Noah, those people lived to see 8-10 generations after them. The numbers are exponential as to their direct descendants alone. Spread that family tree out farther as more people arrived on the earth and you get into the massive thousands quickly.

I knew a woman who lived to see five generations or her family. In total, she had over 500 descendants, over 200 of them being great-grandchildren. She only had 10 kids herself.

If one women and one man can produce that many in less than 100 years today, just imagine what Adam and Eve alone did in 1000 years!

Consider that only the eldest son of each bloodline is mentioned after Seth. However, there were countless other people involved that aren't mentioned. Noah had brothers and sisters. NONE of them were in the ark. Not a one.

However, interesting to note is that the bloodline mentioned before Noah had died before the flood happened, even his own father. I'm speaking only of those who are named in Genesis 6.

You also need to understand that the first 6 or 7 chapters of Genesis go back and forth in time. This is evidenced by chapter 6 reflecting on things that took place in the previous chapters, but speaks as if it didn't happen until chapter 6.
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The flood may have been world wide but there was no need for it because people was not world wide untill after Noah.There was others of all races on the boat.Gen.6:19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee;they shall be male and female
Wow. Are you suggesting that although the Bible mentions several times that only 8 people were on the ark, the writers of the Bible didn't consider people of other races to be people? Cause that's exactly what you are doing.

In fact, the writers of the Bible don't ever acknowledge the presence of people of other races during the beginning of time from creation to after the flood! Proof that racism existed from creation and also came from God???
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Scripture please ?
Silence isn't a valid argument. Your points are all based on things the Bible never says, but you ask others for scriptural proof? LOL!
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