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03-11-2008, 06:20 PM
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Da Brat
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
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Originally Posted by scotty
whose "we"....you got a mouse in your pocket brother??
Some of us UPC don't identify with what we wear, but we wear it anyway.
"Don't get me wrong, I believe Holiness standards are good,
But Hell don't care about your standards.
The devil don't tremble because of the way you dress"
--Pastor Mike Mitchell, Brooklyn NY. UPC
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I agree. Sometimes I wonder if they care more about standards or saving a person.
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03-11-2008, 08:32 PM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
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I agree. Sometimes I wonder if they care more about standards or saving a person.
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One of the problems is that some people think standards=salvation. Their plan of salvation is Acts 2:38 + dozens of other things.
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03-11-2008, 08:52 PM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
What else could be meant by apostolic identity in that statement? Sure can't be signs and wonders. Well maybe the wonders bit, but for the wrong reasons. Unless the organization is willing to make an universal dress code, it is a waste of time to put money into a subjective viewpoint. Thousands of dollars wll be spent to teach "apostolic identity". A misplaced priority.
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Originally Posted by scotty
whose "we"....you got a mouse in your pocket brother??
Some of us UPC don't identify with what we wear, but we wear it anyway.
"Don't get me wrong, I believe Holiness standards are good,
But Hell don't care about your standards.
The devil don't tremble because of the way you dress"
--Pastor Mike Mitchell, Brooklyn NY. UPC
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Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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03-11-2008, 09:31 PM
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Da Brat
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
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One of the problems is that some people think standards=salvation. Their plan of salvation is Acts 2:38 + dozens of other things. |
That is so true some of the old timers do equate them with salvation. But also the standards have become a tradtion with in the church.
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03-12-2008, 05:14 AM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
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Originally Posted by tv1a
What else could be meant by apostolic identity in that statement? Sure can't be signs and wonders. Well maybe the wonders bit, but for the wrong reasons. Unless the organization is willing to make an universal dress code, it is a waste of time to put money into a subjective viewpoint. Thousands of dollars wll be spent to teach "apostolic identity". A misplaced priority.
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Don't see this where I am, in Arkansas District we sure are not spending money to teach "apostolic identity"...never heard of such...we spend money to throw barbq's in the nieghborhoods, hold basketball tournaments for the city kids, etc.etc. I personally adhere to standards but it is through conviction, nobody taught me.
If your church is spending money to teach people how to dress let me know, I will make sure you go on our prayer list.
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In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
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03-12-2008, 08:30 AM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
Last time I checked it didn't cost any money for UPC and the like to teach "Apostolic Identity".
Most preachers preach and teach the clothesline legalism with great gusto each and every time they take the pulpit (well almost).
Even those that don't preach / teach the clothesline adnaseum allude to it in just about every sermon to reinforce the times they do preach / teach on it.
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03-12-2008, 08:35 AM
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I need a Triple Espresso, NOW!
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
I have never heard of it taking $$ to teach "Apostolic Identity"
...and where I come from, I always thought the apostolic identity was more in line with the oneness of God and Jesus Name baptism..... not standards.....
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03-12-2008, 08:35 AM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
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Originally Posted by CC1
Last time I checked it didn't cost any money for UPC and the like to teach "Apostolic Identity".
Most preachers preach and teach the clothesline legalism with great gusto each and every time they take the pulpit (well almost).
Even those that don't preach / teach the clothesline adnaseum allude to it in just about every sermon to reinforce the times they do preach / teach on it.
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Money or not , if your church is preaching this let me know and we will pray they lean more towards our UPC's..
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You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
www.scottysweb.com
www.chrisscottonline.com
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03-12-2008, 08:36 AM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
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Originally Posted by CC1
Last time I checked it didn't cost any money for UPC and the like to teach "Apostolic Identity".
Most preachers preach and teach the clothesline legalism with great gusto each and every time they take the pulpit (well almost).
Even those that don't preach / teach the clothesline adnaseum allude to it in just about every sermon to reinforce the times they do preach / teach on it.
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Amen!
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03-12-2008, 08:36 AM
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Re: District Puts WPF on Notice
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Originally Posted by LadyChocolate
I have never heard of it taking $$ to teach "Apostolic Identity"
...and where I come from, I always thought the apostolic identity was more in line with the oneness of God and Jesus Name baptism..... not standards.....
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Well then , you must not be UPC...(according to this group)
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You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
www.scottysweb.com
www.chrisscottonline.com
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