The loss of a General Board Member

[SDG]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

I don't understand why you guys want these ultracons out so bad. Without their strong hand in the organization you guys will be the new ultracons and will find yourselves fighting to keep the traditions you have grown to love so well.

The UPC can't keep the liberals and it can't keep the ultracons so it is destined to be an org full of mediocre moderates unless it starts to allow the liberals back. The only way this will happen is to finally allow the PCI view to be preached.

Once this happens you can be sure that those that are "weak on your message" will come to power and those who are now moderates will be the new UCs.

The UPC is either going to have change or become completely irrelevant and just throwing the ultracons out is not going to bring the change that you guys are expecting.

That's classic.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by NLYP

You are right...youve sent folks to helll.......there is definitely a difference.

Is Jesus here?

Last I heard he was the only one with authority to do so!

[Whole Hearted]

Originally Posted by NLYP

You are right...youve sent folks to helll.......there is definitely a difference.

I don't send them to hell their sins do.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

I don't send them to hell their sins do.

WH is consistent.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

The funny thing is....now...right NOW...the UPC would STILL be considered by most outsiders to be a conservative group.

Well, it still is.

Especially compared to the other medium to large sized Apostolic denominations.

If some of the UltraCons in the UPC think the UPCI is slipping, they wouldn't want to hang out around certain other apostolic denominations for long. They'd end up sprinkling holy water on folks and rebuking then in Jesus' name!!

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

What a sweet Christian spirit.

Does anyone else see the irony of this post???

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

I don't understand why you guys want these ultracons out so bad. Without their strong hand in the organization you guys will be the new ultracons and will find yourselves fighting to keep the traditions you have grown to love so well.

The UPC can't keep the liberals and it can't keep the ultracons so it is destined to be an org full of mediocre moderates unless it starts to allow the liberals back. The only way this will happen is to finally allow the PCI view to be preached.

Once this happens you can be sure that those that are "weak on your message" will come to power and those who are now moderates will be the new UCs.

The UPC is either going to have change or become completely irrelevant and just throwing the ultracons out is not going to bring the change that you guys are expecting.

hmmm.
AM, DB etc may be moderates but I dare say no one would consider them mediocre, nor weak on message.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Does anyone else see the irony of this post???

um... not really.

Do I really wanna know?

While this is a tragic event regardless of the cause, why must so many throw mud here? What good will it do to continue to throw barbs at one another?
I sincerely doubt that it will create any new upsurge of unity.

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Does anyone else see the irony of this post???

I was trying to keep a good christian spirit about me and keep my mouth shut.