Is AFF the "Apostate Forum" ???

[jrLA]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I still believe in separation from the world by how we love one another. Unfortunately that puts a lot of standard keepers in the "outs". The more we stress the outward above inward, the more bitter we are to others. My thoughts, anyway.

I believe you can have both...separation and love. There has to be a balance.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by jrLA

I believe you can have both...separation and love. There has to be a balance.

Well...... I would not say it is a balance. I think you cannot have ONE without the other. That is, cannot have the TRUE element without the other.

A balance requires two separated elements to level the other up. But there IS NO true separation from the world without love, since LOVE IS HOW we are distinguished. And there is no true love if it is not distinguishing us as His.

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by bdlooney

Is this the "Apostate Forum?"

Basically, Yes.

Not everyone but a whole lot.

Wow, I'm hoping that is a joke, because if it isn't, it sounds an awful lot like you are sitting yourself in the judgement seat. And from what I read in the Bible, that is going to put a whole lot of attention on your own life when it comes time for the real judgement, by the real Judge.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by dizzyde

Wow, I'm hoping that is a joke, because if it isn't, it sounds an awful lot like you are sitting yourself in the judgement seat. And from what I read in the Bible, that is going to put a whole lot of attention on your own life when it comes time for the real judgement, by the real Judge.

Amen, and THAT CAN make the forum SOMEWHAT apostate. lol

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I still believe in separation from the world by how we love one another. Unfortunately that puts a lot of standard keepers in the "outs". The more we stress the outward above inward, the more bitter we are to others. My thoughts, anyway.

I don't know about "bitterness" but it does affect how we think about another brother or sister who may possibly have an even more consecrated walk with God than we do.

Too much unjust measuring and judging. Proper teaching would eliminate a lot of this.

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by Subdued

Mark, shouldn't these been our strict "standards?"

Galatians 5:19-26 (King James Version)

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

(^ The World - avoid the above)

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

(^ The Church - do/be these things)

Oh, but it is so much easier to focus on the other stuff.

I'm not saying that I don't believe in the other stuff, but the things listed above are the hard things, the things it really takes work achieve.

It is so much easier to ignore this stuff and make a big deal out of what you can point your fingers at.

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Amen, and THAT CAN make the forum SOMEWHAT apostate. lol

Exactly!

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by IAintMovin

Was your attack here on Caston Smith as Prax the poster or Prax the admin..... I just wondered??.........I am sure that it was as Prax the poster because I know that Admin would not put up with this kind of posting......

Is this coming from IAintMovin the poster or...............????

[jrLA]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Well...... I would not say it is a balance. I think you cannot have ONE without the other. That is, cannot have the TRUE element without the other.

A balance requires two separated elements to level the other up. But there IS NO true separation from the world without love, since LOVE IS HOW we are distinguished. And there is no true love if it is not distinguishing us as His.

You are correct, scripture does say that it is our love one to another that proves to the world that we are His. But, just because you believe in separation (dress), does not negate that love to one another or the world.

Unfortunately, there are many who do not have both, but there are those who do. I believe in separation and love for one another and the lost! You've got to be balanced!

[jrLA]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Well...... I would not say it is a balance. I think you cannot have ONE without the other. That is, cannot have the TRUE element without the other.

A balance requires two separated elements to level the other up. But there IS NO true separation from the world without love, since LOVE IS HOW we are distinguished. And there is no true love if it is not distinguishing us as His.

I would also agree with you on one thing...the outward CANNOT be stressed ABOVE the inward. Holiness is FIRST in the heart. The lack of teaching this does produce Christians who are out of balance.