While I would'nt say we "sin a little every day" I do think it's important to realize our best rightousness is far, far short of qualifying us for the kingdom.
Also, I believe none other than Christ can truely say he is "sin free".
Not sure what you mean by "sin free" Stephen.
Do you not believe that the blood is there for continual cleansing if we avail ourselves of that IF we do sin? What about the scripture that says the blood of Christ "cleanseth" us from our sin. The "eth" always denotes a continual action. That is there for us when we need it and when we admit guilt and sin. Once you're cleansed, you're clean until the next time you sin or transgress. Then you can avail yourself of that cleansing once again.
Do you not believe the scripture that says that if we walk in the Spirit we will NOT fulfil the lust of the flesh?
I believe that it's possible to live in victory. In fact, I KNOW it is.
__________________ Smiles & Blessings.... ~Felicity Welsh~ (surname courtesy of Jim Yohe)
While I would'nt say we "sin a little every day" I do think it's important to realize our best rightousness is far, far short of qualifying us for the kingdom.
Also, I believe none other than Christ can truely say he is "sin free".
Oh really,
Eph.5:3: But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;4: Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.5: For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God
Gal.5:19: Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,20: Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,21: Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God
24: And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts
1 Cor.6:9: Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,(Homosexuals)10: Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God
1 John3:3: And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.4: Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.5: And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.6: Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him
1 John3:7: Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.8: He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.9: Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God
In another thread it was mentioned concerning the Tulsa situation that changes has caused many to want to change.
I wanted to discuss what the changes are that you have noticed.
For myself I have noticed the following.
1. Most church no longer have foot washing.
2. Most new churches are being built without altars.
3. I see more women cutting their hair.
4. I see men and women coloring their hair.
5. I see more jewelery.
6. Many folks now have TV's in their homes.
7. Many now go to the theather.
8. I see more make-up.
9. Shorter dresses again, (saw them in the 70's as well)
10. Many women feel it is ok to wear pants.
11. Everyone now has a computer it seems.
12. Many feel it is not necessary to pay tithes.
Now these are some of the changes I have noticed since I have been in the church. I'm not saying all of these are wrong, but these are things you didn't see 30 years ago.
Did I miss anything?
With regard to communion - I was brought up doing it just once a year, and that kind of disappointed me.
I think the logistics of footwashing is taking a toll. You always need a seperate room for the ladies - outside the sanctuary, even if there are far more ladies than men. And then you have to carry the "buckets" around and keep the water warm but not too hot. Inevitably, there's a major spill and the dissolved toe jam from a dozen saints is forever a part of the carpet.
I think there's definitely more televisions in more homes. But alot of that has to do with the technology being blurred in many people's minds. The key here is the principle, not the electronics (Psalm 101:3).
On many of the other issues, maybe I don't run with as "liberal" a crowd as others. I don't see that much of a change. Hey, some of the guys are still wearing the same suits they wore 30 years ago!
I think the logistics of footwashing is taking a toll. You always need a seperate room for the ladies - outside the sanctuary, even if there are far more ladies than men. And then you have to carry the "buckets" around and keep the water warm but not too hot. inevitably, there's a mjor spill and the dissolved toe jam from a dozen saints is forever a part of the carpet.
__________________ Smiles & Blessings.... ~Felicity Welsh~ (surname courtesy of Jim Yohe)
Do you not believe that the blood is there for continual cleansing if we avail ourselves of that IF we do sin? What about the scripture that says the blood of Christ "cleanseth" us from our sin. The "eth" always denotes a continual action. That is there for us when we need it and when we admit guilt and sin. Once you're cleansed, you're clean until the next time you sin or transgress. Then you can avail yourself of that cleansing once again.
Do you not believe the scripture that says that if we walk in the Spirit we will NOT fulfil the lust of the flesh?
I believe that it's possible to live in victory. In fact, I KNOW it is.
Amen,
1 John 1:7: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
Do you not believe that the blood is there for continual cleansing if we avail ourselves of that IF we do sin? What about the scripture that says the blood of Christ "cleanseth" us from our sin. The "eth" always denotes a continual action. That is there for us when we need it and when we admit guilt and sin. Once you're cleansed, you're clean until the next time you sin or transgress. Then you can avail yourself of that cleansing once again.
Do you not believe the scripture that says that if we walk in the Spirit we will NOT fulfil the lust of the flesh?
I believe that it's possible to live in victory. In fact, I KNOW it is.
Oh yes, the blood certainly is there and works on our behalf at all times.
We need to confess our sin and our short coming daily.
If I ever say I have arrived and have no need of the mediator, I have then believed a lie. It is through a repentant state that I live victorious, and not by an absence of transgressions (though it can have such a result)
If we say we have no sin, we lie.
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Eph.5:3: But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;4: Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.5: For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God
Gal.5:19: Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,20: Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,21: Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God
24: And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts
1 Cor.6:9: Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,(Homosexuals)10: Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God
1 John3:3: And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.4: Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.5: And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.6: Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him
1 John3:7: Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.8: He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.9: Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God
Perhaps there are some semantics involved but, while I don't doubt you are ready for the kingdom through His blood, I do doubt you had a perfectly Christ-like day.
We fall short - every day. That is not an excuse to sin. But an acknowledgement that is crucial and central to Christian confession.
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Perhaps there are some semantics involved but, while I don't doubt you are ready for the kingdom through His blood, I do doubt you had a perfectly Christ-like day.
We fall short - every day. That is not an excuse to sin. But an acknowledgement that is crucial and central to Christian confession.
Yes, I think so...
__________________ Mrs. LPW
Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
I don't see that much of a change. Hey, some of the guys are still wearing the same suits they wore 30 years ago!
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