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Old 01-09-2008, 03:58 PM
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Roman entertianment went further than the circus.

Nero wanted to be known for his acting and poetry.

So my question is to WBF, did the first century Christians partake in the entertainment of their times?
You crack me up, E.B. It's good to see you.

What about it WBF?
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Old 01-09-2008, 04:04 PM
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Okay.

I think Pentecostal is a buzz word today, too popular. Apostolic holds someone to more depth, ironically (in light of what you have posted), in following Jesus. Pentecostals believe in the day of pentecost only, too many times.
Either way you can get caught in a trap of buzz words and labels.

Around a billion professioning Christians say that they are a part of the "One, Holy and Catholic Apostolic Church..." whenever they find themselves in a church.

When we introduce ourselves to them, what do you think "Apostolic" brings to their minds? For most "Apostolic" means the heavy smell of incense and archaic liturgical languages.

Our buzz words really only fir within the experiences of a certain segment of the U.S. The same segment that we seem to devout 99% of our evangelistic efforts.
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Old 01-09-2008, 04:16 PM
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I understand and appreciate what "apostolic" means on this forum, to Pentecostals. However, to me, in describing a church as "apostolic", it means that they are going out and planting other works - duplicating themselves in other locations. That's what a true apostle does - he plants churches in new places and oversees them. In that sense, our church is definitely apostolic. In the church world as a whole, "apostolic" has a whole different meaning than it does to OP's. There are a lot of conferences offered for apostolic churches, and it has NOTHING to do with Pentecostalism.
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:26 PM
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To be apostolic you will preach Acts 2:38 as being the ONLY way to be saved. You will also believe in one God. Also, I think that you must believe in holiness inside and out.

That Bible says, Ps 24:3-4
3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place?
4 He that hath clean hands (outward holiness), and a pure heart (inward holiness); who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.
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If are really going to be apostolic we will have both.
In the scriptures you have a person say "what must I do to be saved?"
Do you remember what the response from an Apostolic preacher was?

Maybe I'll give you 1 dollar if you quote it word for word.
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:29 PM
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When I walk in his righteousness it will reflect in outward holiness.
And here is where your definition and mine do not fit together.

You say it will reflect outward holiness. I say if you walk his His righteousness you will reflect Jesus. For Jesus is my holiness. If I say I reflect in outward holiness I have something to boast.
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:30 PM
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Interesting question. Since I am Greek I always thought that Apostolic meant what it always meant. Apostolos means something like "one sent with a message"....so Apostolic means "one who is sent"...or literally..."sent from afar".
Oh thanks- I like that definition!
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:40 PM
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And here is where your definition and mine do not fit together.

You say it will reflect outward holiness. I say if you walk his His righteousness you will reflect Jesus. For Jesus is my holiness. If I say I reflect in outward holiness I have something to boast.

Do you think you can reflect Jesus and NOT have outward holiness? If you reflect (look like the world around you) then you are not reflecting Jesus.
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:45 PM
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Do you think you can reflect Jesus and NOT have outward holiness? If you reflect (look like the world around you) then you are not reflecting Jesus.
What is looking like the world? You mean a woman wearing pants? Yes, they can and do reflect Jesus.

My point is my definition is that Jesus is our holiness. We have nothing to glory about and we can't claim it for ourselves.

We must learn to give Jesus the glory for everything that is good and holy.
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In the scriptures you have a person say "what must I do to be saved?"
Do you remember what the response from an Apostolic preacher was?

Maybe I'll give you 1 dollar if you quote it word for word.
Are you going to skip this one Joseph?
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Old 01-10-2008, 12:42 AM
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In the scriptures you have a person say "what must I do to be saved?"
Do you remember what the response from an Apostolic preacher was?

Maybe I'll give you 1 dollar if you quote it word for word.
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Are you going to skip this one Joseph?

Acts 2:38
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
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