Spiritual Co-dendency in the churches? - Page 4

RevDWW · #31 03-10-2007, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Roc

Choose your leaders wisely then submit to their authority, for there are far too many unqualified mickey mouse leaders and far too many that are in it for the prestige and power...so many want to be leaders, but not all are fit to lead.

This is good advice.

Praxeas · #32 03-10-2007, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Coonskinner

It's a decent way to run a secular government, but it isn't the way God established His church, and you know that very well.

AND...as can be seen by our secular government...it don't always work out quite well.

God wanted a theocracy...the people wanted a human king to be over them like the heathens.

Personally I think we can do a better job of finding a more common ground than two "extremes"

RevDWW · #33 03-10-2007, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

AND...as can be seen by our secular government...it don't always work out quite well.

God wanted a theocracy...the people wanted a human king to be over them like the heathens.

Personally I think we can do a better job of finding a more common ground than two "extremes"

Careful......THEY may be listening.....go peek out the window; there may be a black helicopter hovering right now......sssshhhhhh

Praxeas · #34 03-10-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW

Careful......THEY may be listening.....go peek out the window; there may be a black helicopter hovering right now......sssshhhhhh

We need brother Essias....I wonder why he only starts those conspiracy threads at GNC? lol

Im not even against the idea that there are or could be conspiracies, but it seems to me that some folks assume there has to be a conspiracy and thus see conspiracy in everthing they call evidence.

I realized this a long time ago. I used to really be into that stuff then I realized that a lot of so called "evidence" was circumstantial and manipulated or at least the results or meaning of the evidence was manipulated. Micheal Moores "movie" was a great example of biased polemics.

COOPER · #35 03-10-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Coonskinner

You have weighed in with your opinion on Moses;
Moses prayed and interceded with God when God was going to kill them all for their stubbornness. This man you say was hell to follow loved them enough that he said, "If you are going to blot them out, go ahead and blot me out along with them."
Who said anything about blotting?
You have said a lot of very foolish things before, Coop, but maybe never anything quite as assinine as this. {pentecostal cussing}

Correct spelling is asinine Coon, stop cussing at me
This is illustrative of just how far from godly your thinking is.

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Originally Posted by Coonskinner

It's a decent way to run a secular government, but it isn't the way God established His church, and you know that very well.

Are you saying God's way to rule a church is Communistic?

Coonskinner · #36 03-10-2007, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by COOPER

Are you saying God's way to rule a church is Communistic?

I have very clearly stated that it is a theocracy, which is a far cry from communism.

You said that following Moses was hell.

I clearly demonstrated from the Word how God's view was completely different from yours.

Would you care to comment on that?

COOPER · #37 03-10-2007, 06:18 PM

Coon, I would never set under a Pastor that would not want me to question his leadership and just blindly obey his every wim.
My wife and your wife would not put up with us if we just used the Scripture as a Trump card and say "The bible says; wifes are to obey the husband and what I says goes !"
And Pastors use the "obey those that rule and what over yours souls" verse as a trump card too.
It just does'nt fly.

COOPER · #38 03-10-2007, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I have very clearly stated that it is a theocracy, which is a far cry from communism.

You said that following Moses was hell.

I clearly demonstrated from the Word how God's view was completely different from yours.

Would you care to comment on that?

What I mean by hell is; what the Children of Israel went through with Moses was a hell of a time for them. It was ruff and tuff, no one today would do it.
Stop twisting my words, Please.

Coonskinner · #39 03-10-2007, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by COOPER

What I mean by hell is; what the Children of Israel went through with Moses was a hell of a time for them. It was ruff and tuff, no one today would do it.
Stop twisting my words, Please.

Twisting?

LOL!

You are the one who accused me of supporting a communistic leadership model.

I simply quoted you.

You have no soap here, Bub.

Your argument is bankrupt and once again you come up short, and clearly outside the bounds of the Word.

Coonskinner · #40 03-10-2007, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by COOPER

Coon, I would never set under a Pastor that would not want me to question his leadership and just blindly obey his every wim.
My wife and your wife would not put up with us if we just used the Scripture as a Trump card and say "The bible says; wifes are to obey the husband and what I says goes !"
And Pastors use the "obey those that rule and what over yours souls" verse as a trump card too.
It just does'nt fly.

I am not that kind of a pastor.

What do you think obey and submit mean, just out of curiousity?

Why would the Lord have put those verses in His Word if He didn't mean it?