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Old 12-14-2007, 03:25 PM
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Diz, in part I agree. while I dont see how a christian could vote for a Dem. that does not mean voting for Republicans is one's Christian duty.

However right now, I think stopping the dems from getting elected IS ones christian duty.

there will be 2, possibly 3 supreme court appointments in the next cycle. one is the most liberal judge on the court. (John Paul Stephens) the other is the swing vote (Justice Kennedy)

moving both of those to the right CHANGES AMERICA.

As for the war in Iraq, dont believe the media.
I am in agreement with your points, I think you understand mine. I am not saying that I will not vote republican, but what I do vote for will not be a party.

As for the war, I do not believe the media, but I do believe fact, and I know who's pockets have been lined by this war, and I know how many have lost their lives for it. One other point, how do you think your children and grandchildren are going to survive under the burden of debt that is being left to them. Current national deficit is $9.1 Trillion and counting.
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Old 12-14-2007, 03:27 PM
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No, Roosevelt had socialist leanings with his New Deal. He was viewed as a president for the working people, that is why so many old-timers are still Democrat despite all their current demonic positions.

Today FDR along with JFK would be considered conservative and Republican.

This is evidenced by the exact reasons Ronald Reagan switched from the Democratic party to the Republican party and further became the Godfather of the contemporary conservative movement. He could have been considered a Roosevelt Republican.

Cmon Ferd...
I will give you JFK. Roosevelt was right on American Hegemony he was not right on social policy. Uncle Ronny disagreed with Roosevelt on social security and Uncle Ronny was right.

FDR was a marxist when it came to economic policy.
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Old 12-14-2007, 03:30 PM
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I am in agreement with your points, I think you understand mine. I am not saying that I will not vote republican, but what I do vote for will not be a party.

As for the war, I do not believe the media, but I do believe fact, and I know who's pockets have been lined by this war, and I know how many have lost their lives for it. One other point, how do you think your children and grandchildren are going to survive under the burden of debt that is being left to them. Current national deficit is $9.1 Trillion and counting.
Diz, that diatribe about whos pockets are being lined by this war is an old tired and off base back door attack by whacked out liberals who are feeding off peoples fears.

I think the deficit is outrageous but I also think muslims with bombs strapped to their chests need to be dealt with in some location other than the streets of America.

my kids will have a harder time surviving with muslim terrorists trying to kill them than by dealing with the deficit.
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Is Monkeyman going to be sneaking across the border and voting on Super Tuesday?!?!?










Thad long has said he was voting for Hillary. He voted Democratic because he said they would spend more on his roads. Thad IS a Christian.
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Old 12-14-2007, 03:36 PM
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Diz, that diatribe about whos pockets are being lined by this war is an old tired and off base back door attack by whacked out liberals who are feeding off peoples fears.

I think the deficit is outrageous but I also think muslims with bombs strapped to their chests need to be dealt with in some location other than the streets of America.

my kids will have a harder time surviving with muslim terrorists trying to kill them than by dealing with the deficit.
I am not a whacked out liberal and have researched the numbers myself.
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Since the Democratic party platform is primarily liberal to the core, believing in:

Abortion on demand
Gay Marriage & gays as a special interest group
BIG government
More government control of citizen's lives
Silencing the Christian voice in America
Removing the 10 commandments

and a host of other causes that are un-biblical..........can a true Apostolic be a Democrat who believes in these things and please God?


can a true Apostolic be a Democrat who believes in these things and please God



Just wondering. This will be the first election that I will be voting as a registered Independent.
If a person BELIEVES these things you listed, he or she is not Apostolic. How they vote is their business. Just becuase they are registered as DEMOCRAT, that doesn't mean they agree with or support all DEMOCRAT paltform positions. I'm sure ALL Republicans do not agree with ALL Republicans positions. How they vote, or what party, they are registered with has no bearing whatsoever with whether they are Christian or not. Its what they BELIEVE in their heart.
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I am not a whacked out liberal and have researched the numbers myself.
I am conservative and I have researched the numbers.

The Republicans do not have anything left to offer the masses.

The new voters don't remember Jimmy Carter and 24% unemployment and 24% interest rates. They don't remember it took 3 FULL years of recession to bring out some change that has been ongoing now for 27 years of prosperity. The gimme crowd hears that health care will cost them less and to them they don't want to research the fact that someone someplace has to pay for the $58 bottle of eye drops Medicare was charged when my wife was in the hospital recently. They don't know what a mess Medicare is as socialized medicine and don't want to know more except that they are going to get FREE drugs and not have to pay the doctor. The gimme crowd does not know what it was to have tried to get a job in 1981-1983 because they were not born. They know they have always known Nintendo and Microwaves and that to their mind is like Star Trek- done in an instant. They know paperplates and McDonald's throw away wrappers.

And to them Bill Clinton was great, because he had a cute daughter and he was on MTV playing his sax. To them there is no moral absolutes for lying, murder, rape and extramarital sex.

In other words, America has a challenge.

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Questions for those who voted for Republicans in the last few elections.

1. Where is our gay marriage ammendment?
2. Why are our "conservative" legislators so in love with pork barrel spending?
3. Why did our President erode our privacy rights as no other before him has?
4. How many Republicans are for gay marriage and abortion?




I really don't see much difference between the two parties any more.

I think Republicans treat the Fundamentalist Christians just like Democrats treat African-Americans. They use fear and lies and all sorts of silly promises to motivate us to vote for them and then never follow through and get anything done.
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Old 12-14-2007, 03:57 PM
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Since the Democratic party platform is primarily liberal to the core, believing in:

Abortion on demand
Gay Marriage & gays as a special interest group
BIG government
More government control of citizen's lives
Silencing the Christian voice in America
Removing the 10 commandments

and a host of other causes that are un-biblical..........can a true Apostolic be a Democrat who believes in these things and please God?


Just wondering. This will be the first election that I will be voting as a registered Independent.


I am having a hard time justifying my being repulican not to others but to God.

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I am not a whacked out liberal and have researched the numbers myself.
I was not refering to you....however i would be interested in seeing this research and where it comes from.
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