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Old 12-11-2007, 07:37 AM
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Bro West is a long time personal friend. I can say that he was never what I would consider ultra-con. More of a moderate I would think. Last time I saw him he was wearing a short sleeve checkered shirt and a bright orange pair of those funny shoes....clocks....crocs...crocs.

I know the story but don't think it appropriate to post it here. (No, I won't pm it to you either, gossip isn't my bag)
When he first got saved Shane belonged to a real ultra con group, in California.
I can't remember the name of the group (God's soldiers, something like that, maybe Thad knows). He told me about them...

While in the UPC, he was moderate.
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Old 12-11-2007, 07:58 AM
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When he first got saved Shane belonged to a real ultra con group, in California.
I can't remember the name of the group (God's soldiers, something like that, maybe Thad knows). He told me about them...

While in the UPC, he was moderate.
I didn't know him prior to the UPC. Known him about 5 years.
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Old 12-11-2007, 08:05 AM
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If I am remembering right that group he was originally with wasn't even oneness. He had been with the UPC for quite some time.
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Old 12-11-2007, 08:27 AM
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I don't know what Shane holds onto or doesn't anymore but the man has gone from ultra ultra con to now what appears to be ultra lib.

He used to run with an ultra con group in california, they're not UPC they might have even been trinitarian but they were hard-core cons, I wish i could remember their names....
He was saved in a trinitarian church. Then he saw the revelation of the oneness of God. That is what I think I understood. Anyway, he did run around with some very ultra con men for a while but that was several years ago.
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Old 12-11-2007, 04:49 PM
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Why not ask an intellectually honest question .... really.

Who said Shane was excluded or excluded himself .... ?
My question was about the NCO, not Shane West.

Nothing dishonest about that, and I'm not sure why you would imply that.

JG said plainly his parting wasn't over doctrine.
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Old 12-11-2007, 09:06 PM
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I know SKW pretty well. He was a trinitarian preacher who saw the oneness. He attended bro morton's church for a while after his revelation. He then left the upc and ran with VERY Ultra Con men for quite some time. He went back upci for a while and is now non denominational. He did get a nice sum to build a church and is attempting to do that in TN. I am saying all of this not for gossip but to set the record straight. He is still oneness and baptizes in Jesus Name. He is extremely good with bringing hope to people but is not a "doctrinal" preacher. There is a lot of gossip out there concerning him but if you need to know something, please ask him. Go to his website and contact him.
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Old 12-11-2007, 09:56 PM
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Old 12-12-2007, 09:31 AM
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I wish I still had in my posession a tape Shane West Ministries had sent me when I was a teen. I would then be able to answer all the questions about his beginnings.
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Old 12-12-2007, 09:33 AM
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I guess this is their 'statement of faith'.

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Old 12-12-2007, 10:28 AM
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I just think that the fella with the tank top and tattoo is a very good indication of where Shane has went.
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