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Old 10-26-2007, 11:01 PM
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Hmm he might ... but all the rest of his big buddies in AMC and stuff are on the Internet. So I guess he'd have to consider them backslidden too.
See...IF we were the judges, we could all find what we viewed as "reasons" to cast others into hell...and I might add in our moments of judgment, we'd probaby do it, too!
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Old 10-26-2007, 11:02 PM
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And Praise Songs...

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I resent that Ma'am ... we do not worship any other God except Jesus Christ.

And Worship songs about if women's hair is "bobbed" off or not! Yeehaw, my kind of church...NOT!
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Old 10-26-2007, 11:04 PM
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I see...you can pick and chose which false doctrine is ok to fellowship with?
Yep thats in the new bible too!
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Old 10-26-2007, 11:06 PM
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And Worship songs about if women's hair is "bobbed" off or not! Yeehaw, my kind of church...NOT!
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Old 10-26-2007, 11:07 PM
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One thing you have to say for Caston is that he hasn't exploded and lashed out the way some ultra cons did a while back. OR - if he did, I missed it. (OOPS, I am still not sure I read every chapter of this book.)

Blessings to all of you.
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Old 10-26-2007, 11:07 PM
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If they don't adhere to the standards taught in our church, then they are subject to open rebellion against the Pastor, and Jesus said that is as of the sin of witchcraft.
Are you a preacher?!?! Actually Jesus did NOT say this. It was Samuel and it was NOT for disobeying a pastor. It was for disobeying the voice of God

1Sa 15:20 And Saul said to Samuel, Yes, I have obeyed the voice of Jehovah, and have gone the way which Jehovah sent me, and have brought Agag the king of Amalek, and have completely destroyed the Amalekites.
1Sa 15:21 But the people took from the spoil, of the flocks and herd, the best of the things devoted to sacrifice to Jehovah your God in Gilgal.
1Sa 15:22 And Samuel said, Does Jehovah delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as in obeying the voice of Jehovah? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice! To listen is better than the fat of rams!
1Sa 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idol-worship. Because you have rejected the Word of Jehovah, He has also rejected you from being king!

If a Pastor is teaching you false doctrine or doctrines of men, that is NOT NOT NOT the voice of God. Sorry. One may want to obey so as to not rock the boat, but this is NOT of God to come up with man made rules and force them on people and then claim spiritual authority to do it or accuse someone of witchcraft....

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Old 10-26-2007, 11:10 PM
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And Worship songs about if women's hair is "bobbed" off or not! Yeehaw, my kind of church...NOT!
We don't sing that song as a worship song ...

Our worship songs consist of songs out of the Sing Unto The Lord hymnal and chorus like

"One, one, one, one way to God, one, one, one, one way to God, one, one, one, one way to God; baptized in Jesus Name!"

"Jesus on the mainline tell Him what you want"

"Satisfied, satisfied, oh He said He'd be my comforter, He said He'd be my guide, been baptized in Jesus Name, spoke in tongues when the Holy Ghost came every since that wonderful day my soul's been satisfied"

And many other old time Pentecostal songs.
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Old 10-26-2007, 11:13 PM
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Are you a preacher?!?! Actually Jesus did NOT say this. It was Samuel and it was NOT for disobeying a pastor. It was for disobeying the voice of God
Yes ... I made a mistake in quoting that scripture. I never claimed to be perfect.
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Old 10-26-2007, 11:13 PM
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I resent that Ma'am ... we do not worship any other God except Jesus Christ.
Hey Smith do you resent this?

These six things doth the Lord hate; yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, A heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, AND HE THAT SOWETH DISCORD AMONG BRETHREN. Proverbs 6: 16-19. How do you like this card , Jack???? LOL!
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Old 10-26-2007, 11:14 PM
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It's amazing to see so many OPs take scripture out of context....

Let's look at a verse preceding Heb 13:17 same subject

Heb 13:7 Remember your leaders, those who spoke to you the word of God. Consider the outcome of their way of life, and imitate their faith.

It's talking about leaders who speak the WORD, not man made doctrine. Personally though I think if they don't like it they should leave, but as is often the case in some churches they have been controlled and manipulated for so long and there is a psychological factor that has been drummed into their psyche, that if they leave they will be lost. They fear being lost. They fear being treated like trash because they dared to leave the fold, even if they go to another Oneness church. It's like some women in abusive relationships....many of them stay out of some delusional sense of loyalty or for fear or some sort of co-dependency thing.

I know people going to churches like that that do not agree with pastor, don't want to be in a strict church like that, yet they won't leave for another church that is oneness but not as strict. So they keep private their lives for the most part and just not rock the boat on the outward, but often behind closed doors they have TVs in the closet, watch DVDs on the computer or watch streaming video etc
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