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Old 10-30-2007, 11:44 PM
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Let's recap....they CHOSE to leave.
I agree. No one told them to leave.
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Old 10-30-2007, 11:46 PM
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RK, the time for rhetoric is finished .... both sides will move on ... and Lord willing, prosper. These calls for healing, post-mortem and burial, seem whimsical.
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Old 10-30-2007, 11:48 PM
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All I am asking is for somebody to tell me how the UPCI is in someway way better off with less churches and pastors? Simple question. If I were in the Western District and Bro. Booker drops out of the UPCI, is my church going to grow more now? Would the congregation I pastor even know? Why would they care? Then, does that make his church go away into Never Never Land because Bro. Booker no longer pays his dues to Hazelwood?

I'm just amazed at this kind of thinking and am trying to see if there is a shred of logic I am missing. Then again, I probably have not gotten around ...
Please point out who said the UPC is better off with less churches and pastors?

Second the UPCI did not get rid of them. Any that leave are leaving of their own volition.

They apparently think they are better off leaving. You got a problem with that? They don't want to stay....if they are so bothered and upset then perhaps it is better the do leave for their sake and those that remain. If two can't be in unity, then being together just causes confusion and the appearence of disunity

and apparently you have selective reading too, because I did respond to you alraedy. This makes twice. It's NOT always about numerial growth that matters. We are supposed to be in unity. Unity is important to the body of Christ. The body is supposed to be ONE body not a divided body. If they feel they can't remain they it might be better. If they feel they can remain, then that is even better. But if it is impossible to work out the differences, how can two walk together exept they agree?
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I still hate AGREEING W/ YOU!!!
that's not what I heard.
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Getting rid of completely absurd beliefs seems like part of the healing process, in my opinion...
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Getting rid of completely absurd beliefs seems like part of the healing process, in my opinion...

No diggity ... no doubt.
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There are good, earnest men on both sides of this divide and there is room for a conservative org. to move forward in unity and a more moderate UPC to do the same.
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There are good, earnest men on both sides of this divide and there is room for a conservative org. to move forward in unity and a more moderate UPC to do the same.
Heyyyyyy...How about a UPCCon and a UPCMod organization....

There can be a an UPChuC ....has a ring to it don't you think?
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