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09-09-2018, 03:53 PM
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Re: BY THIS STANDARD-Greg L. Bahnsen
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Criminal anarchy is still a crime under federal and state law.
What you want is to live in a society that does not follow God's Word at all. You want a liberal, leftist, socialist utopia. Sweden awaits you.
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So, it would be a crime to teach that such a government is just another "beast", and not the Kingdom of God?
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09-09-2018, 03:55 PM
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Re: BY THIS STANDARD-Greg L. Bahnsen
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I see what you're saying, but what would a CR government do to those who preach that it is as much of a "beast" to be resisted as any other and that it is NOT the "Kingdom of God"?
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I already answered this. You won't get a different answer, by wording the question differently. But it seems that you would be happy telling the elders you disapprove, but still want to remain in the building? The broom closet?
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09-09-2018, 03:56 PM
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Re: BY THIS STANDARD-Greg L. Bahnsen
It's like the thief who breaks into your house and then tries to convince you he has a "right" to stay there and steal your property, and sell it at the local pawn shop. And if you object you are just a naziewhowantstokillsixmillion.
The rational response would be to thump the clown and stick his hind end in jail. But the modern American response is to send the cops to your house and threaten YOU with jail or death if you interfere with your "guest".
All this insanity due to people not seeking after God. And yes, it will get worse. Just look at Europe, especially Britain.
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09-09-2018, 03:57 PM
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Re: BY THIS STANDARD-Greg L. Bahnsen
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Progressives (what used to be called communists) argue against their host society. They demand the right and liberty to work to overthrow the existing system, whatever it may be. Yet, no society except late 20th century America and western Europe ever tolerated such nonsense.
This is part of the reason we are in the mess we're in. We have tolerated those who are working to overthrow our culture and society.
If someone like Aquila wants to march in the street for sodomite rights screaming that God's law is of the devil he can go right ahead. And be promptly arrested and either tried or deported for treason.
Just like he thinks Christians ought to be treated. He did, after all, declare on this forum that Christian theonomists are enemies of the state and a threat to national security.
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You've posted that you're an enemy of the Constitution. It's clear. The theocratic Utopia you promise is just as oppressive as any Communist government. Only you claim God Himself supports your oppression of human beings.
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09-09-2018, 04:01 PM
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Re: BY THIS STANDARD-Greg L. Bahnsen
The Kingdom is spiritual, not a civil government. And you will find your theonomic regime in the ash heap of history with every other civil government upon collapse or the return of Christ.
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09-09-2018, 04:01 PM
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Re: BY THIS STANDARD-Greg L. Bahnsen
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So, it would be a crime to teach that such a government is just another "beast", and not the Kingdom of God?
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Aquila you approach elders, you tell elders that you believe that they are heretics. You present your case, your case lacks anything Biblical. They all refute you in the most reasonable and scriptural way. You then leave the house church. Take friends and family with you. The door is wide open for an exit. But you want to still stay in the garage and hold midweek services? No, you left, never to return. They are happy, and you are happier.
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09-09-2018, 04:03 PM
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Re: BY THIS STANDARD-Greg L. Bahnsen
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You've posted that you're an enemy of the Constitution. It's clear. The theocratic Utopia you promise is just as oppressive as any Communist government. Only you claim God Himself supports your oppression of human beings.
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What is funny, is that you don't feel that way about leaving the house church. You believe that they were wrong. Therefore you chose to leave, leave you did. But here you want to stay and make them accept your narrative. See the problem?
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
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09-09-2018, 04:04 PM
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Re: BY THIS STANDARD-Greg L. Bahnsen
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You've posted that you're an enemy of the Constitution. It's clear. The theocratic Utopia you promise is just as oppressive as any Communist government. Only you claim God Himself supports your oppression of human beings.
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Yawn. You're full of propaganda and left wing talking points. You believe God's Word is oppression equal to Soviet communism.
You're just like the lesbian feminazis demanding Muslims be allowed to move in and take over. So sad.
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09-09-2018, 04:05 PM
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Re: BY THIS STANDARD-Greg L. Bahnsen
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The Kingdom is spiritual, not a civil government. And you will find your theonomic regime in the ash heap of history with every other civil government upon collapse or the return of Christ.
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Ash heap of baloney, because systems have started but out of the misfortune of keeping disgruntles, then end up being destroyed from within.
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09-09-2018, 04:06 PM
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Re: BY THIS STANDARD-Greg L. Bahnsen
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Yawn. You're full of propaganda and left wing talking points. You believe God's Word is oppression equal to Soviet communism.
You're just like the lesbian feminazis demanding Muslims be allowed to move in and take over. So sad.
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Yes indeed, Aquila seems to just want God four hours a week? Weekend, and midweek?
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